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Is Christ "completely God, completely flesh"?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 1689Dave, Aug 16, 2020.

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  1. atpollard

    atpollard Well-Known Member

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    That seems odd to me since half of all Baptists are Particular and half are General and there have ALWAYS been both General and Particular Baptists with each having a turn in the majority. How can a majority of Baptists deny a Baptist distinctive at one point in history?

    By definition that would disqualify "individual soul liberty" as being a distinctive.
     
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    atpollard Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for this.

    (I would have 'liked' the post, but you added the attack on Calvinism to the bottom.)
     
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    This is baloney. The Reformed and Baptist creeds are based on the Ecumenical creeds.
     
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    I said the Creeds say that about you, not me.
     
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    To my eye, all the above reference our human spirit/soul, but do not address with Christ had a human spirit/soul in addition to His divine Spirit/Soul.
     
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    The passages treat soul and spirit as two separate parts of human beings.
     
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    On and on folks, Calvinists deny the obvious.
     
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    You are welcome, and your post #81 fulfilled my reference to Calvinism's denial of Individual Soul Liberty.
     
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    Sir, that is not the issue in dispute. Did Christ have a human "soul/spirit" in addition to His divine "Spirit/Soul" is the issue.
     
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    What does the symbol of Chalcedon say?
     
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    Why address this question to me when you did not even attempt to answer my question. Apparently no one has any clue as to the biblical basis for the claim Christ had a human "spirit/soul" in addition to His divine "Spirit/Soul.

    As with many creeds, the Chalcedon contains errors, so why not back up and cite scripture. Speculation is the mother of false doctrine.
     
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    But they do not. That is my point. While I do not care about the creeds I do believe that they provide an excellent doctrine regarding the Hypostatic Union.

    Christ is One Person, two natures (inseparable yet without mixture), fully man and fully God. I completely agree with that. In fact, that was what I offered.
     
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    If you can't see it in scripture, perhaps the creeds can help you look for it.
     
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    The creeds divide the sheep from the wolves.
     
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    No. Christians test doctrine against Scripture.
     
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    I know the answer from scripture Sir, I was trying to encourage others to base their doctrine on scripture rather than creedal assertions without actual support in scripture.
     
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    Errors:
    1) What is being taught with the assertion Jesus had a reasonable (rational) body?
    2) Why was Christ's divine Spirit not included?
    3) Properly understood, Psalm 2:7 teaches God the Son was engendered when He was anointed with the Holy Spirit and Power.
    4) What is "consubstantial?" Being of the same essence does not equate with being equally essential. For example Christ is more essential than any other human.
    5) Only Begotten is a mistranslation
    6) No Baptist accepts the creeds handed down, should read "and the Scripture handed down to us.
     
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    Why address any question to you when you NEVER answer the question that was asked? [rhetorical]
     
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    On and on, ad hominem after ad hominem, posting a smokescreed to hide the obvious

    Here is my actual post:
    Why address this question to me when you did not even attempt to answer my question. Apparently no one has any clue as to the biblical basis for the claim Christ had a human "spirit/soul" in addition to His divine "Spirit/Soul.

    Did you see an answer, or just a charge that I do not answer. Never mind my post #97 where I did address the question.
    On and on folks, on and on, the obvious false doctrine of Calvinism is defended using smokescreed.
     
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    Just for grins, folks, how many "spirits" did Christ have, one or two? How many left His body when He died? You can look it up. :)
     
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