Is Eating Pork Wrong?

[Brother Bob]

I just had a nice piece of Polish Sausage.....Should I go to confessional in the morning?

I lived in Hamtramick, Mich for several years and cut my teeth on Polish Sausage. I even had some Polish friend that gave me some homemade and man did I love that stuff. My cousin brings me some when he comes down from Mich to visit. They know how I love that stuff. You can send me some anytime you like.

Oh, you just live on the other side of the tunnel don't you?

 

[BobRyan]

I just had a nice piece of Polish Sausage.....Should I go to confessional in the morning?

cheers,

Jim

Only if you actually cared about God's Word in the OT -- back a long long time ago when the "God who does not change" came up with Lev 11 and Isaiah 66 -- very ancient stuff you know.

Those were the "early days" when God was very very "young" - long before He became "THE SAME yesterday today and forever" - long before the Bible was the WORD of GOD.


Wayyyy back then it was sort of a partnership between God and Moses. And both were just learning. But you have to give Moses credit for making up some pretty interesting stuff. Still given that they were both so young and innexperienced they were bound to write down some mistakes for us to ignore today.

For example - what about this mistake he makes in telling Isaiah what to say in Isaiah 66 regarding that Rev 20 future event and judgment of the world by fire --

As follows - (Isaiah 66)

16 For [b]the LORD will execute judgment by fire And by His sword on all flesh[/b], And those slain by the LORD will be many.
17 ""Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens, Following one in the center, Who eat swine's flesh, detestable things and mice[/b], will come to an end altogether,'' declares the LORD.
18 ""For I know their works and their thoughts; the time is coming to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and see My glory.

You just have to know which part of the Bible to ignore.:wavey: :laugh: - you know - look you are doing in your comment above.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

I am sticking with the ban on rats, cats, dogs and bats ... horses too!!

It is what God tells us to do in Lev 11 - telling us "They are not food" for us.

so while there are probably some people turning a blind eye to that and dreaming about "kitty-sandwiches" with some bugs on the side ... I am one of those that wants to honor God's Word on this one.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[xdisciplex]

alcohol (fermented wine), on the other hand, is NOT a food and has NO nutritional value to it.

No nutritional value? I don't think so. Wine also has ingredients which can be considered as healthy + it has calories, this means it has a nutritional value.

 

[Jim1999]

What was that New Testament verse pertaining to the church that bans the consumption of pork????

No one here is talking about eating cat and rats and elephants execept the seventh day adventists of Ellen G. White.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Heavenly Pilgrim]

BR: so while there are probably some people turning a blind eye to that and dreaming about "kitty-sandwiches" with some bugs on the side

HP: I do not know about the bugs on the side, but the ‘kitty sandwich’ might not be all that bad. I saw a bumper sticker that read. “I like cats! They taste like chicken.”

 

[bapmom]

Has anyone brought this up yet?


Ac 10:9
¶ On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
Ac 10:10
And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
Ac 10:11
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Ac 10:12
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Ac 10:13
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Ac 10:14
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Ac 10:15
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Ac 10:16
This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Some say this is symbolic, later its application is made by Peter as pertaining to the gospel being given to the Gentiles now. But God would not have used an example that wasn't also true in its literal sense, right?

Also, simply because God does not change doesn't mean that He can't use different means or methods at different times. God's CHARACTER never changes.

 

[LeBuick]

Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

 

[Eric B]

Some say this is symbolic, later its application is made by Peter as pertaining to the gospel being given to the Gentiles now. But God would not have used an example that wasn't also true in its literal sense, right?

What that shows is that the dietary laws in themselves were ultimately symbolic (spiritual), as further illustrated by Peter's use of "Be holy for I am holy" (1:15) and Paul's use of "Touch not the unclean thing" (2 Cor.6:17) which originally referred to meats, to refer to unclean people and behavior. the epistle of Barnabas would also spell this principle out in detail.

 

[corndogggy]

Those were the "early days" when God was very very "young"

Sooo... when was God's birthday? Who was God's mom and dad?

 

[corndogggy]

No nutritional value? I don't think so. Wine also has ingredients which can be considered as healthy + it has calories, this means it has a nutritional value.

... and antioxidants... and phytochemicals which benefit bones...

 

[gekko]

did anybody hear yet that Romans 14 is talking simply about vegetarians and meat-eaters?

 

[Jim1999]

If pork is so bad, why is it the most transplantable tissue for humans? Why does so much research surround it? Why even a solution to the diabetes problem may come from a "pork" implantation...Hmmmmmm...Was it really a pig in the Old Testament?

Cheers,

Jim

 

[BobRyan]

did anybody hear yet that Romans 14 is talking simply about vegetarians and meat-eaters?

Actually there is NO Jewish or OT command to "eat Veggies only" so the Rom 14 issue is NOT an issue between OT and NT doctrine. It is the SAME issue we see in 1Cor 8 and 10 where Paul says "I WILL NEVER EAT MEAT AGAIN if it causes my brother to stumble". It is the issue of meat offerred to idols.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

What was that New Testament verse pertaining to the church that bans the consumption of pork????

No one here is talking about eating cat and rats and elephants

Although you seem to claim that Adventists wrote the Bible - or that Moses wrote it behind God's back ... the truth is --

God is the Author of Lev 11 AND THAT is where we find refernce to cats, rats, dogs and bats.

(This really is not that hard Jim - all you had to do was read one chapter to get this point.).

And there is NO text in the NT that says to IGNORE THE WORD OF GOD - as you seem to imagine. RATHER we find that the WORD of God is UPHELD in the NT.

In Acts 17:11 we even see the SOLA SCRIPTURA method used AND APPROVED in the NT!!

Something that that sola-scriptura-bashing segment here is going to slam - but still - it is the NT model!!

In Christ,

Bob

 

[LeBuick]

If pork is so bad, why is it the most transplantable tissue for humans? Why does so much research surround it? Why even a solution to the diabetes problem may come from a "pork" implantation...Hmmmmmm...Was it really a pig in the Old Testament?

Cheers,

Jim

Pork, the other white meat... MMMmmm MMMmmm :thumbs:

 

[Bethelassoc]

Well, how about the 10th chapter of BKings...

Hold the pickel, hold the lettuce, special order don't upset us, all we ask is that you let us serve it your way...

Or even from the red letter McGospel...

Two all beef patties, special sauce lettuce cheese pickels onions on a seaseme seed bun...

And from Emerils commentary of the NT, PORK FAT RULES!!! You do remember pork, it's the other white meat...

:laugh:

Maybe it's because it's getting late, but man, I've not had a post make me laugh until I cried. Good one, LeBuick.

Ya'll come down to Southeast MO where the pork steak is king. :tongue3:

I also enjoy shredded pork with BBQ, butter and sour cream on a 1lb potato called the "Terrible Tater".

 

[Helen]

Is eating pork wrong?

The pigs object....

 

[EdSutton]

Is eating pork wrong?

The pigs object....

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ed

 

[BobRyan]

I agree - all very funny.

Still -- the truth of God's Word remains --

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God is the Author of Lev 11 AND THAT is where we find refernce to cats, rats, dogs and bats.

(This really is not that hard Jim - all you had to do was read one chapter to get this point.).

And there is NO text in the NT that says to IGNORE THE WORD OF GOD - as you seem to imagine. RATHER we find that the WORD of God is UPHELD in the NT.

In Acts 17:11 we even see the SOLA SCRIPTURA method used AND APPROVED in the NT!!

Something that that sola-scriptura-bashing segment here is going to slam - but still - it is the NT model!!

In Isaiah 66 we see the clear reference to the fire and brimstone of Rev 20 and the prediction that God does destroy those who eat mice and detestible things.

Is it really so surprising that God forbids you to eat a cat sandwich in Lev 11? (and Isaiah 66 a rat sandwich is forbidden)

Why is this taken to be so surprising to Christians?

Are cats and rats really so tasty that you can't get away from them - or is this a case of your picking-and-choosing your way through the chapter?

In Christ,

Bob