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Is Eternal Sonship of Jesus Biblical?

Dave G

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It goes to how one understands the Word to be with God.
"The Word was made flesh amd dwelt among us."

My question, for those who would ask, is... who is "the Word" being described in John 1?
Who is the Word who was with God and was God, was made flesh and dwelt among us?

If not Jesus Christ the Son of the living God, then I know of no other.
 

percho

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"The Word was made flesh amd dwelt among us."

My question, for those who would ask, is... who is "the Word" being described in John 1?
Who is the Word who was with God and was God, was made flesh and dwelt among us?

If not Jesus Christ the Son of the living God, then I know of no other.

"Let there be Light."

The Word was with God.

Did the Word say, "Let there be light"?
Did the God say, "Let there be light"?
Or did what was said, "Let there be Light," become flesh?

because it is God who said, Out of darkness light is to shine, who did shine in our hearts, for the enlightening of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 4:6 YLT
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
Did the Word say, "Let there be light"?
Yes, I believe He did, just as in Jesus' Pre-existant Appearance as "the Voice of The Lord was Walking in the Garden in the cool of the day", however, again, by saying Jesus Spoke, "let there be light", which was in regard to the physical light in the Heavens bringing the Created Universe out of physical darkness upon the face of the deep, is not intended to be a reference to Jesus becoming into Existence only at the Creation of the Universe, even stretching it to also apply that primary interpretation to the facts regarding God Creating man, man being in darkness and then, Jesus saying "let the Spiritual Light of God Shine in their hearts", in so many words, when God Saves souls.

Jesus, being the Same Essence and Nature of God the Father has always Existed,
Eternally, as Truely God, without beginning, as a Lamb Slain before the Foundation of the World, meaning, from Effectually, Eternity Past, Forever and Ever Ago...

See, for innumerable Blessings to behold, John Gill's Body of Doctrinal Divinity:https://ccel.org/ccel/gill/doctrinal/doctrinal.ii.xxvi.html
Chapter 26. Of The Unity Of God
Chapter 27. Of A Plurality In The Godhead; Or, A Trinity Of Persons In The Godhead, Chapter 28. Of The Personal Relations; Or, Relative Properties Which Distinguish the Three Persons in the Divine Godhead,
Chapter 29. Of The Distinct Personality, And Deity Of The Father,
Chapter 30. Of The Distinct Personality, And Deity Of The Son,
Chapter 31. Of The Distinct Personality, And Deity Of The Holy Spirit

John Gill's Body of Doctrinal Divinity.
 

JonC

Moderator
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Yes, I believe He did, just as in Jesus' Pre-existant Appearance as "the Voice of The Lord was Walking in the Garden in the cool of the day", however, again, by saying Jesus Spoke, "let there be light", which was in regard to the physical light in the Heavens bringing the Created Universe out of physical darkness upon the face of the deep, is not intended to be a reference to Jesus becoming into Existence only at the Creation of the Universe, even stretching it to also apply that primary interpretation to the facts regarding God Creating man, man being in darkness and then, Jesus saying "let the Spiritual Light of God Shine in their hearts", in so many words, when God Saves souls.

Jesus, being the Same Essence and Nature of God the Father has always Existed,
Eternally, as Truely God, without beginning, as a Lamb Slain before the Foundation of the World, meaning, from Effectually, Eternity Past, Forever and Ever Ago...

See, for innumerable Blessings to behold, John Gill's Body of Doctrinal Divinity:John Gill: Doctrinal Divinity - Christian Classics Ethereal Library
Chapter 26. Of The Unity Of God
Chapter 27. Of A Plurality In The Godhead; Or, A Trinity Of Persons In The Godhead, Chapter 28. Of The Personal Relations; Or, Relative Properties Which Distinguish the Three Persons in the Divine Godhead,
Chapter 29. Of The Distinct Personality, And Deity Of The Father,
Chapter 30. Of The Distinct Personality, And Deity Of The Son,
Chapter 31. Of The Distinct Personality, And Deity Of The Holy Spirit

John Gill's Body of Doctrinal Divinity.
Not that it matters because it's just speculation (more philosophy rather than true theology), but I always pictured the Father speaking and everything being created through the Word.
 
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