God gives to all a real offer to get saved by Lord Jesus, but lost sinners will keep refusing that offer!
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Is God Insincere in His Gospel Message?
- Thread starter SavedByGrace
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To those who can hear His voice, its sweet, but to others it reeks of death!
SavedByGrace
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were you not once a "lost sinner"?
Yes, and thank God he found me!
SavedByGrace
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did you not repent and believe?
Yes, as the Holy Spirit enabled me to do that!
SavedByGrace
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so it was mechanical?
Alan Gross
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It is possible to worship Satan, through boasting of man's Superior Position, in The Universe, then his Creator.
I would like to Worship God, by saying that I do not know of any evidence of the following A.)-P.), and I do not believe any evidence exists:
A. Here we have one of the clearest passages in the Bible, for the Universal Death for B.) the Salvation of the entire human race. This is known as "pontential" salvation.
C.) In every instance in this passage, the word "ALL", refers, not, as some teach, to just an "elect" few, D.) but the whole human race. ... God, E.) "DESIRES" the salvation of ALL MEN, F.) those ALL mentioned earlier. Further, we read that Jesus Christ is the "Mediator between God and men,", that is, G.) the ALL MEN in this passage, the human race. It then says that Jesus Christ, "gave Himself a ransom for all", the same H.) ALL in this entire passage.
I.) No honest, Bible-believing Christian can take these words in any other way, unless J.) for theological bias, than for what K.) it very plainly says, that L.) God desires (M.) wills) that the N.) whole human race were saved. O.) This is exactly what the Apostle John says in his Gospel, 3:16.
P.) This is the heart of the God of the Holy Bible. Yet there are some who oppose this.
I would like to Worship God, by saying that I do not know of any evidence of the following A.)-P.), and I do not believe any evidence exists:
A. Here we have one of the clearest passages in the Bible, for the Universal Death for B.) the Salvation of the entire human race. This is known as "pontential" salvation.
C.) In every instance in this passage, the word "ALL", refers, not, as some teach, to just an "elect" few, D.) but the whole human race. ... God, E.) "DESIRES" the salvation of ALL MEN, F.) those ALL mentioned earlier. Further, we read that Jesus Christ is the "Mediator between God and men,", that is, G.) the ALL MEN in this passage, the human race. It then says that Jesus Christ, "gave Himself a ransom for all", the same H.) ALL in this entire passage.
I.) No honest, Bible-believing Christian can take these words in any other way, unless J.) for theological bias, than for what K.) it very plainly says, that L.) God desires (M.) wills) that the N.) whole human race were saved. O.) This is exactly what the Apostle John says in his Gospel, 3:16.
P.) This is the heart of the God of the Holy Bible. Yet there are some who oppose this.
No, as the Lord enabled me to freely respond to Him!
SavedByGrace
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enabled in what way?
atpollard
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"Whoever Believes" ... John 3:16-21
Opened me up to know was a sinner, and that Jesus died for me, and that he was raised up alive again, and that he is Lord!
Scripture More Accurately
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Yes, this was one of the other aspects that I was thinking of.
Scripture More Accurately
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Actually, I do not think that I have. I think I do understand what you are trying to get it, and I am probing what you are saying to determine whether what you are setting forth stands up to full biblical scrutiny.
Jesus did say that His Parables were light to his own, but the rest would fall on deaf ears!
isaiah said that they would hear but not hear and stay in darkness!
SavedByGrace
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read the OP again, and you will see that I have very clearly stated exactly what I believe. If you think I am wrong, then show me from the Bible
SavedByGrace
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Acts 28
26 “‘Go to this people, and say,
“You will indeed hear but never understand,
and you will indeed see but never perceive.”
27 For this people's heart has grown dull,
and with their ears they can barely hear,
and their eyes they have closed;
lest they should see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their heart
and turn, and I would heal them.’
THEY HAVE CLOSED, notice the change here from the Isaiah passage. God is here not the "author" of this, but the "people" referred to, who refuse to listen to the Gospel, as Jesus says in John 5
"39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life."
And Paul in Acts 13
"46 And Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly, saying, “It was necessary that the word of God be spoken first to you. Since you thrust it aside and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles"
See that the sinners are here responsible for their own actions, in the wilful REJECTION of the Gospel, so that they may be saved. Don't make God out to be the One Who is against the salvation of the human race; it is US sinners who reject His Ways!
Scripture More Accurately
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As I said, I am probing what you have said to see if it stands up to full biblical scrutiny. I have not said that you are either right or wrong concerning everything you are asserting.
Alan Gross
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The, "whosoever believes", and "the world", and The Elect are the same individual souls.