Using Nathan as an illustration of how it OUGHT to be done was my post, not what was NOT to be done.
Nope, that is what YOU ASSUME I am arguing.
Like I posted: "I think that this thread needs to look at some examples from the Scriptures in which humankind rebuked humankind."
But Nathan DIDN'T say those words, did he. He didn't have to use rude rebuke because the conviction of David's own words were used. Your attempt to put them in as part of the under the breath statements has absolutely no Scriptural foundation.
There is no warrant given in Scriptures that considers Nathan even thought this of David. Rather, the fact that Nathan approached David as he did shows just the opposite of your statement.
Nathan's illustration said those pointed things about David. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE.
Jesus called people serpents, hypocrites, whited selpulchers, foxes and on and on and on.
Peter, Paul and Jude called people twice dead, plucked up by the roots, clouds without water, liars, DOGS and all kinds of other names.
There is BIBLICAL Christianity and then there is this other stuff out there that you and John seem to be advocating.
This is a problem that I see occurring on the BB.
It is that someone must win and someone must loose.
Why?
Why can't a topic be stretched to take what I ask and post examples of how the Scriptures show rebuke in action and do so without there being a "winner or looser?"
You don't understand what it means to win a debate. It means to prove your point. To lose a debate means to have your arguments proven insufficient.
Yes. This is ALWAYS what you want in a debate.
You can say you are wrong any time you desire, Luke. I'm not keeping you from it.
I do say it from time to time.
But there is NO DOUBT that the Bible is with me on this. NONE. NONE. NONE.
Why should I? Can you have such a high exalted opinion of yourself that you can proclaim who is right and wrong? Nathan couldn't. He let David do that.
Nathan WAS saying that David was wrong.
I am wrong on many things. Perhaps I was wrong in assuming that you could handle this topic.
That's insulting. Do you see the hypocrisy of people who try to enforce unbiblical standards on others? They can't abide by them themselves.
What would help "change the spirit of this place" is you not assuming who won or is wrong and who needs humility.
Nope. What I said is what would change the spirit of this place.
Perhaps if you took what I posted more seriously, you could actually engage with accurate accounts of Scriptures. Refrain from placing your own bias and opinion of attitude and hidden thoughts into the examples, and actually show, by Scriptures, the types and styles of rebukes given in Scriptures.
It is UNBELIEVEABLE to me that you NEED me to!!!
If you are not familiar with the TONS of examples that could be used... then you shouldn't be discussing these matters until you are better educated on them.
But just so you know. The list of name calling I listed above is IN THE BIBLE. Use your Strongs if you need to.
To the end of being godly. Godly people call people what they are.
Did he describe them accurately?
That's the WHOLE POINT.
Who is for calling people INACCURATE names?????????
Madness.
Were they not wicked and murderers?
Yep. You're starting to get it.
I have a friend who is a convicted felon. It is not a joke between us, but neither is it a covered sin. He is a felon. When we are together he is not removed from that label.
The title one carries as a result of their action is just that - a title. That it carries the sting of rebuke and shame is a part of the title.
And???
another way of saying he called people NAMES...
