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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by alexander284, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    Do you agree with those who have stated "concerns" over the over masculinity in the Bible, in the "overall " too much holding to now outdated views regarding men and women in culture and gender roles?
     
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    In Corinthians the 2011 changed reference to the body of believers, the local church to mean the individual believers. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20.
     
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    I suppose that is some sort of recognition that the older version was wrong, but hardly wholehearted repentance.
    It changes our understanding, or should do. The reason why Paul is not ashamed of the Gospel is because it is the power of God to salvation. Why does that matter? BECAUSE (or FOR) the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven. the gar is to show that verse 18 is intimately connected to what has gone before.
    This is even more important. We do not draw water from the wells of salvation in a vacuum. It is only the one who can say, verses 1 and 2 of whom verse 3 is true.
    'Therefore' is a great big nine-letter word in English; the Hebrew word is a tiny connecting word. 'So' or even 'and' would do to show that is only the man who can say 'YAH, the LORD is my strength and my song; He has also become my salvation,' who will drink the water from the wells of salvation. It is vitally important to connect the verses together.
    I have picked out only two examples because I have preached on them recently, and on each occasion I had to waste time explaining the connection between the verses. It shouldn't be necessary.
    There is a tiny number of examples of older writers making foolish grammatical mistakes. The fact that such solecisms are becoming increasingly common shows how Newspeak is steadily becoming established.
    If I believed that God is dead I would probably agree with you, but being of the persuasion that He is very much alive, I look forward to such abominations being consigned to the dustbin of history.
     
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    Since it is not a sin in any way, no repentance is needed.
     
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    You have gone beyond Van with his "deeply flawed" mantra. using the singular they is certainly not an abomination. But for you to say it is, well that may be considered an abomination.

    What you call grammatical mistakes, although a vast improvement on your part, than to say an abomination, you are simply wrong. Using the words he, him or his referencing a mixed crowd is silly.
     
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    Do you have concerns about "the over masculinity in the Bible" Y-1?
     
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    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    Don't be so silly yourself. Using 'they to refer to a mixed crowd is obviously correct. It is using the word to refer to a single person that is misleading and objectionable.
     
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    Pardon me, You are partly correct. I meant when referencing an unspecified person, the use of he, him or his is silly.
     
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