Is suicide unforgivable

[salzer mtn]

I just wanted to post a quick note. I have been reading scripture about God going through storms with us but does that cover when WE cause the storm? I have a lot of questions regarding Gods forgiveness and restoration. I want to be forgiven but feel like I am seeking forgiveness because of what has happened. I find myself asking if I would be seeking Gods forgiveness if this had not happened. I was still guilty of everything but if this had not happened I would not be seeking forgiveness. That face makes me doubt why I am seeking God. I want to be right with God but will He have me even if this is the reason why I am coming? Well, thank-you again and please keep praying.

Sir, God is the first cause of our salvation. That does not mean he cannot use second causes to bring us unto himself. Remember the Centurion in Matt 27 that was at the cross when Christ was crucified, he said when he saw the earthquake, Truly this was the Son of God. God has many way's to get our attention. So the way's do not matter. The important thing is, He has our attention.

 

[annsni]

I just wanted to post a quick note. I have been reading scripture about God going through storms with us but does that cover when WE cause the storm? I have a lot of questions regarding Gods forgiveness and restoration. I want to be forgiven but feel like I am seeking forgiveness because of what has happened. I find myself asking if I would be seeking Gods forgiveness if this had not happened. I was still guilty of everything but if this had not happened I would not be seeking forgiveness. That face makes me doubt why I am seeking God. I want to be right with God but will He have me even if this is the reason why I am coming? Well, thank-you again and please keep praying.

I think sometimes God uses the natural results of our choices to bring us back to Him. Would you have known that you were doing wrong without these consequences? Probably not. No amount of talking to you probably would have made a difference. But the end result is what matters: You see that you have sinned, you see that you need to change and you are ready for that. "Be merciful to me, a sinner!" is our cry to God. Remember the prodigal son? Do you think his father was thinking "Yeah, you made your bed, had your fun, suffered and NOW you come home to me?" Not at all. He welcomed his son home with open arms. God is doing that to you now. Accept his gift of grace and mercy.

 

[Scarlett O.]

I just wanted to post a quick note. I have been reading scripture about God going through storms with us but does that cover when WE cause the storm? I have a lot of questions regarding Gods forgiveness and restoration. I want to be forgiven but feel like I am seeking forgiveness because of what has happened. I find myself asking if I would be seeking Gods forgiveness if this had not happened. I was still guilty of everything but if this had not happened I would not be seeking forgiveness. That face makes me doubt why I am seeking God. I want to be right with God but will He have me even if this is the reason why I am coming? Well, thank-you again and please keep praying.

Do you know one of the things that I like about the Bible and am coming to appreciate about it more and more as years go by? It doesn’t cover up or hush up Godly people’s grievous errors. It reveals the good, the bad, and the very, very ugly of even the best of people.

Ann is right, the only way that Christians many times learn is WHEN we have to face the consequences of our actions. Think about King David. He was oblivious to his sin (or at least in denial about it) until Nathan called him on it. And then he was so remorseful that he wrote and entire Psalm about it. (Psalm 51).

David made horrible and devastating mistakes as a husband and father. He was lousy at it. You seem to believe that you have too. Here’s something that I’ve said about King David and God calling him “a man after God’s own heart” even though King David was the king of making mistakes.

When the Bible calls David a man after God's own heart, it doesn't mean that he was "special" to God in a perverse showing-of-favoritism kind of way. Nor does it mean that David got away with personal sins because God liked him better than other people. Nor does it mean that David was this perpetual harp-playing, tree-hugging, sheep-tending innocent-of-heart boy.

David sinned grievously. MANY times. In MANY ways. He admitted those very words - "I have sinned grievously." And God refused to allow David to build the Temple because David has too much blood on his hands as a military man. 1 Chronicles 22:8

He was a lousy husband and a worse father. His family - especially his children - were more dysfunctional because of David, their father, than was Jacob's family.

Many people suffered because of David's own personal sins. The punishment that the people had to bear when David numbered them, the men, boys, and male animals living on Abigail's property who almost lost their lives because of David's pride and temper, Uriah, Bathsheba, David's children suffering from his neglect of discipline, and Michal, who became very bitter towards David, as his wife because after she helped him escape from her father - she doesn't see him for a long time and when she is finally reunited, she had already been forced to live with another man she didn't love and David has other wives.

Then why does David get that prized title, "a man after God's own heart?"

Because of a couple of things.

It's in part because of David's devotion - his love and obedience to God and his fierce dependence ON God. That's a big part of it.

Another big part of it is because whenever God "called David out" on his personal and wicked sins - his passionate temper, his fleshly passions, and his pride - David immediately and without hesitation repented with MUCH grief.

King David mourned over his personal sins and their affront to God like no other person seen in the Bible. His own sins made him sick. And when confronted with them, he turned away from them and acknowledged his sin before a Holy God.

Being a man after God's own heart didn't make him special. It made him a sinful man who was willing to allow God to purge the sin away from him and submitted to the chastisement of God with as much abandon as he did the love of God.