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Is the KJV shown proper respect by avoiding the truth?

Martin Marprelate

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All the specifics you have thrown at the NIV are not found in the text of the NIV. You can't get around that basic fact. You have never proven from the text of the NIV any of your reckless accusations. And that is quite the shame for a professing Christian --years on end.
You're off-topic. This thread has nothing to do with the NIV.
If you want to open a 'berate Y 1' thread, for goodness' sake go and open one, preferably on another board.
 

Rippon2

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Its not just me seeing the various issues in the 2011 Niv though, as there is the Bible researcher, Committee on Guidelines, SBC, so many fel same way I do!
As I have told you before : your links are broken chains. Most of the time you haven't taken the time to read them. Many times they are completely irrelevant. Many times no specifics which you have lobbed are contained in the articles. Many times the links have supported my view.

What I have implored you to do hundreds of times is your own homework. You have no right to make hollow assertions with absolutely no foundation in truth. You have no right to make despicable claims and offer no proof --no documentation from the very text itself. You twist the Scriptures to your own condemnation.
 

Yeshua1

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As I have told you before : your links are broken chains. Most of the time you haven't taken the time to read them. Many times they are completely irrelevant. Many times no specifics which you have lobbed are contained in the articles. Many times the links have supported my view.

What I have implored you to do hundreds of times is your own homework. You have no right to make hollow assertions with absolutely no foundation in truth. You have no right to make despicable claims and offer no proof --no documentation from the very text itself. You twist the Scriptures to your own condemnation.
The Inclusiveness of the 2011 Niv is bad in some areas!
 

Logos1560

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I have never seen a thread instigated by a full-on KJV-only protagonist on this forum, but I have seen plenty of attacks on these mythical people,

There have been and are full-on KJV-only protagonists at this forum. Some in the past have either been suspended or banned or may no longer post in the Bible translation area, but there are still KJV-only advocates who are members of this forum. One has started several threads in the other Christian denominations forum. I also recall one a year or two ago (perhaps longer) who instigated several threads before being suspended.

KJV-only advocates are not mythical people.

Perhaps you invented a mythical "anti-KJV brigade."
 

Logos1560

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Thinking that the incorrect claims and errors in KJV-only reasoning/teaching should be pointed out and answered is not at all suggesting an need for any inquisition.

Perhaps a few may seem to want an inquisition to try to silence and condemn any believer who objects to KJV-only reasoning.
 

Yeshua1

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There have been and are full-on KJV-only protagonists at this forum. Some in the past have either been suspended or banned or may no longer post in the Bible translation area, but there are still KJV-only advocates who are members of this forum. One has started several threads in the other Christian denominations forum. I also recall one a year or two ago (perhaps longer) who instigated several threads before being suspended.

KJV-only advocates are not mythical people.

Perhaps you invented a mythical "anti-KJV brigade."
Those holding to KJVO are very belligerent and desiring to have all other translations shown to be either satanic, or corrupted!
 

Rippon2

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I when will you admit that they did a bad job in some areas in the 2011 Niv?
When will you admit your continual promulgation of falsehood with respect to the NIV?

You have said among other things regarding the NIV :

I) It confuses the roles the roles of men and women
2) It is a feminizing translation
3) It advocates women as pastors
4) It promotes women as elders
5) It champions women as heads of homes

That's just a sampling of your complete deceit regarding the NIV. You have never repented for saying those king-sized fibs. You just continue on your merry way. Numbers 1,2,3,4 and 5 are absolutely false and malicious. It's a twisting of Scripture to make up things as you have continually done.

I have told you to prove from the very text of the NIV that any of these disgraceful charges are true. You have NEVER done so. If it's not in the text your charges are entire fabrications. You need to confess that you have been wrong to make false reports for years on end. Lies do not comport with a Christian's testimony.
 

Yeshua1

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When will you admit your continual promulgation of falsehood with respect to the NIV?

You have said among other things regarding the NIV :

I) It confuses the roles the roles of men and women
2) It is a feminizing translation
3) It advocates women as pastors
4) It promotes women as elders
5) It champions women as heads of homes

That's just a sampling of your complete deceit regarding the NIV. You have never repented for saying those king-sized fibs. You just continue on your merry way. Numbers 1,2,3,4 and 5 are absolutely false and malicious. It's a twisting of Scripture to make up things as you have continually done.

I have told you to prove from the very text of the NIV that any of these disgraceful charges are true. You have NEVER done so. If it's not in the text your charges are entire fabrications. You need to confess that you have been wrong to make false reports for years on end. Lies do not comport with a Christian's testimony.
Junia, Son of Man Psalm 8, confusion of the corporate body and reference to individual bodies etc!
 

Rippon2

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Junia, Son of Man Psalm 8, confusion of the corporate body and reference to individual bodies etc!
As usual, evasion is your normal way of behaving. You addressed absolutely none of your five completely false allegations against the NIV. You keep railing against KJVOism and insist they are wrong. Yet you haven't looked in the mirror and owned up to your mountains of junk against the NIV over the course of a decade or more. Your integrity took the last train out of the city years ago.
 

Yeshua1

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As usual, evasion is your normal way of behaving. You addressed absolutely none of your five completely false allegations against the NIV. You keep railing against KJVOism and insist they are wrong. Yet you haven't looked in the mirror and owned up to your mountains of junk against the NIV over the course of a decade or more. Your integrity took the last train out of the city years ago.
Its very to discuss Niv 2011 with you, as you tend to see it in same way the KJVO see Kjv!
 

Rippon2

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Its very to discuss Niv 2011 with you, as you tend to see it in same way the KJVO see Kjv!
"It's very to discuss" huh?

You are an inveterate bigtime fibber. Address your numbers 1,2,3,4, and 5. Provide documentation from the text of the NIV to establish your claims. Since you have never, and shall never, it's time to confess your sad of history of deceit regarding this matter. You are the one most like KJVO's in that you attribute absolutely false, even devilish things to an honorable and faithful Bible translation. Do not twist the Scripture. That's a godless thing to do.
 

Yeshua1

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"It's very to discuss" huh?

You are an inveterate bigtime fibber. Address your numbers 1,2,3,4, and 5. Provide documentation from the text of the NIV to establish your claims. Since you have never, and shall never, it's time to confess your sad of history of deceit regarding this matter. You are the one most like KJVO's in that you attribute absolutely false, even devilish things to an honorable and faithful Bible translation. Do not twist the Scripture. That's a godless thing to do.
So is attempting to emasculate how God intended to write the scriptures!
 

Rippon2

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So is attempting to emasculate how God intended to write the scriptures!
Two different threads and two simple questions that I have addressed to you. But you are refusing to answer. That shows a lack of integrity and demonstrates your guilt. What have got against honesty Y-1? Should a child of God go around bearing false witness as you have done? Of course not. But on and on you go fibbing your foolish head off.
 

MartyF

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I have never seen a thread instigated by a full-on KJV-only protagonist on this forum, but I have seen plenty of attacks on these mythical people, usually either from yourself of the chap with the thing about Ford Corvettes. You are hunting unicorns, on this forum, at least.

The unicorns are

Dave Gilbert who has said that theologians working on other Bible translations are going to Hell and hints that those who use other translations may go to Hell for doing so.

George Antonios who is otherwise a very nice guy and though he heavily disapproves and sticks his nose up to other translations, hasn’t threatened translators or others with damnation.

Others who have not posted recently.

Unicorns do actually exist in the KJV and I don’t mean Rhinos. It’s one reason why I call it the D&D version of the Bible.

They don’t start threads but they will attack people within threads already started.

Logos1560 is being more truthful by calling them out in the open.
 
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Logos1560

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George Antonios who is otherwise a very nice guy and though he heavily disapproves and sticks his nose up to other translations, hasn’t threatened translators or others with damnation.
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He may be a nice guy, but he seems to hold an extreme form of KJV-only view. He does not provide many details about his KJV-only view, but he did indicate that his view of the KJV is not based on any defense of the Textus Receptus. He claims that the KJV is inspired, and he seems to make it the final authority in and of itself. It would seem to be clear that he does not consider the Hebrew Masoretic text and the Textus Receptus to have greater authority than the KJV.

I wonder if he has not read or listened to more radical KJV-only advocates such as Peter Ruckman, Sam Gipp, Herb Evans, William Grady, Gail Riplinger, or one of their followers.
 
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