Is There Such A Thing As A Just War?

[JustChristian]

Alright, but you were denouncing Christians and calling them murderers on the other thread because you believe the Iraq war is unjust. Even if others think so (I discount the WCC because they are so, so liberal that I don't trust them), this does not mean it is true.

So why not let believers decide for themselves? Do you take back calling Christians murderers who are fighting in the Iraq war?

(Please note I have never stated a position for or against the war in Iraq).

Will everyone here take back the statement that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands?

 

[OldRegular]

Will everyone here take back the statement that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands?

I don't believe that anyone on this forum stated that "that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands". I and many others did say that O'bama was a rabid abortionist and that a vote for him was a vote for abortion.

Now that Justice Ginsberg has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer it is likely that O'bama will soon be appointing a new Justice. I had much rather McCain were making the appointment, even with a democrat Senate.

 

[Palatka51]

I don't believe that anyone on this forum stated that "that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands". I and many others did say that O'bama was a rabid abortionist and that a vote for him was a vote for abortion.

Now that Justice Ginsberg has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer it is likely that O'bama will soon be appointing a new Justice. I had much rather McCain were making the appointment, even with a democrat Senate.

Sadly all those that voted for Obama have made it possible to appoint a judge that will legislate and not adjudicate.

 

[Palatka51]

Will everyone here take back the statement that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands?

The derailleur has struck again. Just can't stay on subject can you?!

 

[OldRegular]

Sadly all those that voted for Obama have made it possible to appoint a judge that will legislate and not adjudicate.

Sadly you are correct.

 

[donnA]

Will everyone here take back the statement that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands?

Still having trouble focusing, can't stay on topic? The topic is war, not abortion.

 

[JustChristian]

I don't believe that anyone on this forum stated that "that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands". I and many others did say that O'bama was a rabid abortionist and that a vote for him was a vote for abortion.

Now that Justice Ginsberg has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer it is likely that O'bama will soon be appointing a new Justice. I had much rather McCain were making the appointment, even with a democrat Senate.

I said it It's true. I'm comfortable with Obama's choice o0f a jurist. By the way, I thought George Bush's appointment of John Roberts was an outstanding choice. It was probably the best thing Bush did as President.

 

[JustChristian]

The derailleur has struck again. Just can't stay on subject can you?!

THE HYPOCRITE strikes again. Actually, I was answering Marcia's question. I suppose you would have i9gnored her.

 

[Andy T.]

JC, just answer Marcia's question without asking another question. For someone who bemoans how the Church has become too political and and an arm of the GOP, you are the biggest partisan political hack on this board, turning every thread into an anti-GOP, anti-Bush, anti-anti-Obama, or anti-Christians-who-do-not-line-up-with-your-political-views tirade. And need I mention how many threads you abandon when you are challenged, just like you can't or won't answer Marcia's question? You are the biggest hypocrite on this board, bar none.

 

[thegospelgeek]

Is there a just war? I don't know. If I took it to a personal level, I feel justified defending my family, friends, neighborhood from threats. I guess that would apply on a national level.

JC has posted positions of several orginizations, but does it matter if the Southern baptist say it is just and the WCC says it is not? Do we take our guidance from them or scripture? As for me, I could care less what either groups says. It is a personal decision that has to be made. I can repect a decision either way.


JC...
I don't want to let you off the hook on the acusation that troops are murdering Iraqi citizens. I asked before and ask again, what information do you base this on. Who have you spoken to that supports this statement? I think that is a fair question that deserves a fair answer. This is the third request for an answer.

 

[JustChristian]

JC, just answer Marcia's question without asking another question. For someone who bemoans how the Church has become too political and and an arm of the GOP, you are the biggest partisan political hack on this board, turning every thread into an anti-GOP, anti-Bush, anti-anti-Obama, or anti-Christians-who-do-not-line-up-with-your-political-views tirade. And need I mention how many threads you abandon when you are challenged, just like you can't or won't answer Marcia's question? You are the biggest hypocrite on this board, bar none.

Ah, but I have NEVER suggested that politics and religion be combined. That's the key point.

 

[thegospelgeek]

Ah, but I have NEVER suggested that politics and religion be combined. That's the key point.

Can they be seperate?

Can we seperate ANY aspect of our lives from our faith in Christ?

 

[Andy T.]

Ah, but I have NEVER suggested that politics and religion be combined. That's the key point.

No, that's the nonsensical point, as gospelgeek pointed out. Our faith in Christ [should] permeate all areas of our life. Besides, you are the first to hammer people with Matthew 25 quotes to buttress your support for gov't welfare, and even your sig line appeals to Christ in making a political statement against war. More hypocrisy, unless you can cease from using any and all Bible references and appeals to "what would Jesus do" from your posts dealing with politics.

 

[Andy T.]

And we still await to your answers to post #14.

 

[Marcia]

Will everyone here take back the statement that voting for Obama means having the blood of millions of aborted babies on your hands?

I never said that.

 

[Marcia]

THE HYPOCRITE strikes again. Actually, I was answering Marcia's question. I suppose you would have i9gnored her.

JustChristian, since you are not answering the question, I can only assume you do believe fellow Christians fighting in Iraq are murderers, and are unwilling to take it back.

 

[thegospelgeek]

JustChristian, since you are not answering the question, I can only assume you do believe fellow Christians fighting in Iraq are murderers, and are unwilling to take it back.

Marcia... He has called my son and other soldies murderers several times. I have asked him for sources. He never responds. I have been polite, kind, and cordial. No response.

Not to derail the topic, but...

Many more innocent lives are taken in the US by automobiles than are taken in the war with Iraq. Does JC protest the use of automobiles? Why not?

 

[Marcia]

Marcia... He has called my son and other soldies murderers several times. I have asked him for sources. He never responds. I have been polite, kind, and cordial. No response.

Not to derail the topic, but...

Many more innocent lives are taken in the US by automobiles than are taken in the war with Iraq. Does JC protest the use of automobiles? Why not?

I've been trying to give him a chance to take this back, but so far, nothing.

 

[JustChristian]

No, that's the nonsensical point, as gospelgeek pointed out. Our faith in Christ [should] permeate all areas of our life. Besides, you are the first to hammer people with Matthew 25 quotes to buttress your support for gov't welfare, and even your sig line appeals to Christ in making a political statement against war. More hypocrisy, unless you can cease from using any and all Bible references and appeals to "what would Jesus do" from your posts dealing with politics.

I don't think you understand. I'm saying that Christ's church should not endorse political parties or candidates. If you treat Democrats in your church or who are potential converts the way you do on the BB that distances half of this country from your church. Not the faith but your church.

Of course Christians need to apply their faith in every area of their life including politics.

 

[JustChristian]

I've been trying to give him a chance to take this back, but so far, nothing.

I don't believe that soldiers have a Christian right to kill the enemy and innocent people in an unjust war.