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Is Unbelief a sin ?

Brightfame52

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Not only did Christ merely die for unbelief, but He died for all the sins of them He died for. All their iniquities were laid on Him and met on Him Isa 53:6

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

That word iniquity also means He being punished for the iniquity that was caused to meet on Him. All of their moral evil and perversions were laid on Him, to mention their depravity, their actual sins and inherent filth and evil thoughts. Remember David prayed Ps 19:12

12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

These secret faults were laid on Christ, and His Blood cleanses from all sin ! 2
 

kyredneck

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Is Unbelief a sin?​


The question should be 'is unbelief an unforgivable sin', or, 'is unbelief the only unforgivable sin', as the majority of modern-day evangelicals believe?

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For what if some were without faith? shall their want of faith make of none effect the faithfulness of God? Ro 3
 

Brightfame52

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Paul is an example of how Jesus Christ saves those He died for from unbelief. He testified to that fact here 1 Tim 1:12-15

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

All Paul did in persecuting the Church, the People of God was grounded in unbelief. However Jesus converted Paul from his unbelief when He renewed him on the road to damascus, Acts 9:1-6

And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

And so when Paul recalls this amazing show of mercy and grace towards him, even in the height of his unbelief, he cannot help but to testify:


"15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief."

See to save a sinner is nothing less than saving an unbeliever
. Jesus saves them by giving them His Grace and Faith, and hence they believe through Grace Acts 18:27

27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:

To say that Jesus wont save a person because they wont believe is far from the truth ! 2
 

Brightfame52

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Unbelief is no more than an iniquity, and Christs death for one redeems an effects from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

If one Christ died for dies in unbelief, then it rendered His Death ineffective.
 

Brightfame52

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Frankly speaking if Christ didn't die for the sin of unbelief, none could be saved, since God put all men in unbelief Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Nobody will be saved from a sin Christ didn't die for ! The sole way to be saved from any sin is for Christs blood to have taken it away, purged it Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

So if by chance you are saved from unbelief, and yet Christ didn't die for it, congratulations, you saved yourself from your sin of unbelief, you are your own saviour !
 

Brightfame52

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Christ died for the sin of unbelief because its a sin the Holy Spirit convicts of Jn 16:8-9

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Unbelief is the root sin of the world that Christ taketh away ! Jn 1:29

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.3
 

Brightfame52

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The work of the devil, which unbelief is, cannot render the work of Christ on a sinners behalf ineffective or futile. But that's exactly what people are saying when they claim Christ died for people who still perish in their sins because of unbelief Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

That unbelief is satans work producing unbelief is seen in a couple of verses. #1 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

#2 Lk 8:12

Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

So if Christ died for a person for the intention of saving that person from their sins, and that person nevertheless dies in unbelief, and never believes and be saved, then the devil rendered Jesus purpose to save ineffective, and gains the victory over the Son of God concerning that soul. Thats why I dont believe a person Christ died for can die in their sins in unbelief !
 

Brightfame52

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When Christ died for the sins of the elect, He died for their sin of unbelief, so He must show mercy to the elect for their unbelief Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

So now the elect for their unbelief, obtain mercy Rom 11:30-31

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.4
 

Brightfame52

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The only way one for whom Christ died, to die in unbelief, its because unbelief reigned superiorly over the Blood of Christ. Now who wants to make that claim ?
 

Brightfame52

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Is unbelief the cause of ones condemnation ?

Jn 3:18

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Its thought in mans religion today that unbelief is the cause of condemnation, however its not, but its the symptom, outcome, and evidence that one is already condemned, not by unbelief but by the law of God.

Mans condemnation came upon him not by his unbelief in Christ, but by his uniformity with adam when he disobeyed Gods Law, Rom 5:18

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Did Adam disobey Gods Law ? Most definitely, no it wasn't the mosaic law but Gods moral law. Many will tell us that the law of God didn't exist at the beginning of creation, but that's ignorance and error, because the scripture is clear that Adam transgressed Rom 5:14

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

And sin is defined as 1 Jn 3:4

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

If there had been no law adam couldnt had sinned because the strength of sin is the Law 1 Cor 15:56

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

And had there been no law for adam and man in him, consequently there had been no transgression Rom 5:12-14

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Common sense would have us to realize that a law was transgressed since death had its reign up to the time of moses, when the mosaic law was instituted

So if folk say there was no law of God and man wasn't under law before moses, they are in darkness.
 

Brightfame52

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So final unbelieving goes to show that one is under condemnation of the Law, a law that Christ didnt satisfy for since He didn't die for them as one of His Sheep. Since Christ didn't substitute for them God still charges them as a transgressor of the law, as such, the Law condemns them without a Saviour to believe in.
 

Brightfame52

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See the Truth be told, unbelief is the consequence of being already condemned. Faith in Christ will not be given to them whom Christ didn't come to save and whom He did not lay down His Life for, namely the non sheep, since its expressly stated He came to lay down His Life for the Sheep Jn 10:10-11

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they[The Sheep] might have life, and that they[The Sheep] might have it more abundantly.

11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


So unto the Sheep it will be given unto them to Believe on His Name Phil 1:29

29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Why ? Because being of His Sheep He lay down His Life for them and satisfied for them Gods Law and Justice, hence the Law doesn't condemned them, and they cant be of them whom are already condemned, having a right therefor to believe on His Name Jn 1:12 ! The non sheep have not this right and so are already condemned, which their unbelief gives evidence of !
 

Brightfame52

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No unbelief isnt the cause of ones condemnation, but their condemnation is the cause of their unbelief ! Jn 3 :18

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Those not believing here in this verse and context will never become believers but will remain unbelievers, since they werent Sheep for whom Christ died. Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

Now those believing in this verse and context do so because they were never condemned, because Christ was condemned in their stead, He was made a curse for them Gal 3:13

That curse He became for them He died for was because of their condemnation, which was due for their sins. So they weren't never condemned already !
 

Brightfame52

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Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief !


One of the most disappointing things about religion these days, that goes in the name of christianity, and claims to believe in Christ, and what He accomplished on the Cross by suffering and dying for sin, is that it didnt guarantee no ones salvation. Im going to show that scripture declares without a shadow of doubt that Christs death, burial and resurrection saves a person even while they are unbelievers, and enemies. Even then that God himself is reconciled to them.

The first scripture is Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Thats being saved from Gods penalty of sin and received into His favor even while an enemy to God !

For peace was made for Paul, as well as other elect persons by the blood /death of Christ's cross Col 1:20-22

20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

God has no wrath for a rebellious unbelieving sinner for whom Christ died lest His death was to God of no effect, God forbid !
 

Brightfame52

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Believers were saved by Christs death alone because by His death alone He for them, before they became believers obtained for them eternal redemption Heb 9:12

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
 

Brightfame52

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Heb 10:10.14 prove that those Christ died for are saved legally and perfectly before they believe solely by the offering of Christ which speaks to His death for them

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering/death of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

14 For by one offering/death he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

How can one be perfected and not be saved ?
 

Brightfame52

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Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Christ death alone redeemed them He died for from the curse of the law, so they were saved from hell and dying in their sins before they believed.
 

Blank

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Yes, by all means and it's illustrated by the unbelief of the jews who departed from egypt Heb 3:16-19
And by the Gentiles in Genesis...

Genesis 6:5 NIV
The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

IOW, ALL have sinned.
 

Van

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Is unbelief a sin? Does Going Against the will of God equate with sin? Yes.
Are humans commanded to love God with all our heart mind and soul? Yes
Can a person love a God he does not believe exists or fulfills His promises? No

Did we volitionally sin at conception, because we do not believe in God or His Christ before we have even heard the gospel? No. No because we have done nothing good or bad. But we are in a sinful state, separated from God as a consequence of Adam's sin. We were made "sinners." And the only way out of that sinful state is for God credit our faith as righteousness. Thus, at conception, we are condemned due to unbelief. John 3:18.
 

Silverhair

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Is unbelief a sin? Does Going Against the will of God equate with sin? Yes.
Are humans commanded to love God with all our heart mind and soul? Yes
Can a person love a God he does not believe exists or fulfills His promises? No

Did we volitionally sin at conception, because we do not believe in God or His Christ before we have even heard the gospel? No. No because we have done nothing good or bad. But we are in a sinful state, separated from God as a consequence of Adam's sin. We were made "sinners." And the only way out of that sinful state is for God credit our faith as righteousness. Thus, at conception, we are condemned due to unbelief. John 3:18.

That is a rather odd bit of logic @Van. At conception are they able to trust in God, NO are they able to deny God, NO.

John 3:18 does not support your view as it shows man making a choice.

Can young children or those that are mentally impaired make those choices. In other words to show a faith so as to be credited with righteousness?

By your logic all the mentally impaired and those children that die within, to pick a age, 5 years of birth are all condemned to hell? Do you really believe a loving God would do that?
 
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