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That is far from a fool proof plan, though certainly better than nothing. Also we do not know that they always get the message, nor do we know for certain that the civilians can get away. Many I am sure are held there against their will. So should they just go ahead and bomb them? There are better ways.

 

Maybe he'd like for the Obama administration to negotiate a cease fire. :smilewinkgrin:

 

:smilewinkgrin:

A cease fire, even negotiated by an idiot, is preferable to bombing civilians (Speaking about both sides of course). :wavey:

 

Who is holding them there against their will and what is your alternative way?

 

The terrorists of course.... Human shields, I think that was brought up earlier.

Special forces could be used, for example.

 

Thats their own people and who are the special forces troupe that you are referring to?

 

Israel has been living with this closer and longer than anyone on this board. Yet there are armchair quarterbacks who think they know it better. The epitome of arrogance.

 

What do you mean "That's their own people"? Surely you aren't suggesting that all the people in Gaza are in Hamas?

IDF special forces not ours.

 

You're for non-violence yet you would advocate the use of IDF? Are you aware that a person killed by a 9mm bullet is as dead as someone killed by an explosion?

 

I have said before that I hate war and violence. And yes I am for nonviolence for Christians. Israel, as a nation, has the right to bear the sword in accordance with Romans 13. Christians should not take part though. Sorry for any confusion there.

And yes I am aware of that, I am not a moron.

 

I am glad I did not have any coffee in my mouth when I read that. It would have been all over the screen. :laugh:

 

I don't answer questions that have already been answered for me.

So, your back to no response at all, now ? Israel should just stay being bombed ? Do you let robbers into your house ?

You can stay twisted about that, if you want to. I've moved on.

I still say God doesn't want push-overs.

 

Claiming to be conservitive does not ake you conservitive. Your belifs are liberal. Like I said every liberal I have even et has to twist what the other person says to hold any kind of argument. Lastly you dodged my question which is a standard liberal tactic when confronted.

 

So, Israel should defend herself, but we shouldn't encourage it ?

 

So you disagree.

Stop twisting what I have said. I have been clear from the beginning, what is permitted for a nation is different than what is permitted for a individual Christian. Stop conflating the two.

You really are too much. I honestly don't get it. No one but you brought up prophecy.

Pacifism doesn't equal passivism.

Christians shouldn't encourage it, no.

 

My beliefs are conservative. Just because you, absurdly, think that not wanting to bomb civilians is "liberal" doesn't make it so. I encourage you to stop the name calling and actually discuss the topic. I answered your questions. If I missed one please point it out to me, but I assure you I dodged nothing. Also, you still have not answered any of mine. Who is dodging questions again? :BangHead:

 

RLBosley: "Are you actually wanting an answer or are you just ranting? It looks like an emotional rant to me. Let's start a new thread if you want to talk, since that would be well beyond the bounds of this thread's OP. OK?"

If you read my post, you will note that I asked a very specific question, which is directly related to the topic!!!!

Emotional rant?? Darn tooten it was, cause I do get a little piqued when reading some of the nonsense posted about Israel vs Palestinians/Hamas/Muslims etc, etc.

The left seems to think EVERY country in the world should defend themselves EXCEPT Israel. Israel is just supposed to try to stop the suicide bombers and that's it. As long as rockets come from outside Israel, the Israelis are just supposed to hunker down and "bear their cross"!!!!

This is pure bovine excrement, and the result of a liberalizing of the Holy Scriptures by idiots who think they know better what God meant than He did.

End of rant!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seriously? Why the need to "Christian Swear"? Everyone knows what you mean, so just use the term.

 

Actually your question was not related to the topic of Israel and Hamas. You said:

That is not related to Israel or Hamas. That's why I said that if you wanted to talk about it, rationally, then we can, just in a new thread about that subject.

Please point out any time I said every other country can defend itself but Israel. Please point out any time I even hinted at such a thing! Please point out any time I said that Israel, as a nation, should not defend itself.

You built up a straw man and have proceeded to beat the stuffing out of it. Congrats, I guess.

I also note your assigning me to the left and oblique use of profanity. Keep it classy bud. At least you recognize it for an emotional rant.

And the irony of your screen name in relation to this conversation... classic.

 

If you fail to see the relation of y question to your subject, then it's useless for us to try to communicate.

I'm through.