Ivermectin, a Godsend

[JonC]

Here are several success stories around the world.

Global adoption of COVID-19 early treatments

I'm not interested in people who used Ivermectin and got better. Just like people who complained of vaccine side-effects only to have been given placebos the results are suspect.

What I mean are studies like Duke is working on (a fixed number of candidates with a control group).

 

[JonC]

It was created in 1975 by William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura. Later Merck got involved in it. But because that company could not make enough money on it, the patent having expired, they designed a very pricey Ivermectin 2.0, so to speak. So, yea, it stands to reason that they would diss the original product.

Except they could sell their product.

 

[JonC]

Good grief, bro. Its in the book. Read it. I would love to have your thoughts on it.

I am interested in the studies....but not enough to read a book (sorry).

Publish on on your travels and I'm game.

 

[xlsdraw]

Yes. Why do more people not see this?

They don't want to.

 

[JonC]

We also need to acknowledge the deaths linked to Ivermectin. I don't mean overdoses associated with the pandemic, but pre-2019 Ivermectin deaths.

 

[Reformed1689]

The covid unvaccinated are dying at a rate over 11 times the covid vaccinated. They are also being hospitalized for serious issues related to covid at a higher rate.

With Omicron?

 

[Reformed1689]

I'm not interested in people who used Ivermectin and got better.

Of course....

 

[Reformed1689]

We also need to acknowledge the deaths linked to Ivermectin. I don't mean overdoses associated with the pandemic, but pre-2019 Ivermectin deaths.

How about we finally acknowledge Covid's microscopic death rate?

 

[asterisktom]

We also need to acknowledge the deaths linked to Ivermectin. I don't mean overdoses associated with the pandemic, but pre-2019 Ivermectin deaths.

If we do that we need to first look at the much greater number of deaths from Remdesivir, respirators, and the murderous HCQ "trials" from the vaccine cartel.

But please tell me first about these IVM deaths. Aside from one dubious story, It is news to me.

 

[asterisktom]

A good place to get a feel for the book The Real Anthony Fauci, I recommend at the very least checking out the Amazon page. A lot of good reviews on this wretched excuse for a human being. His evil machinations have been going on for decades. Reading the section on AIDS and his AZT is particularly damning.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens/dp/1510766804

 

[JonC]

If we do that we need to first look at the much greater number of deaths from Remdesivir, respirators, and the murderous HCQ "trials" from the vaccine cartel.

But please tell me first about these IVM deaths. Aside from one dubious story, It is news to me.

It has been an issue for some time (pre-pandemic).

Current deaths (and serious medical issues) that I've read about with Ivermectin and the pandemic concern overdoses. I take it this is from people buying the drug from a farm supply and "prescribing" their own dose. So I'm not really concerned with this as it is related to stupidity rather than the medication itself.

But deaths and serious effects from Ivermectin have been reported prior to 2019. There was, for example, a study from 2018 studying serious adverse neurological effects from Ivermectin in treating patients in Africa. There was a 2017 study of deaths resulting from Ivermectin used to treat scabies.

The medication has been connected to neurotoxicity (seizures, disorientation, coma).

All studies I have read conclude the risks are worth the benefit.

I do hope the medication proves effective. My concern is with people just going to TSC and taking the drug believing it is safe.

 

[asterisktom]

It has been an issue for some time (pre-pandemic).

Current deaths (and serious medical issues) that I've read about with Ivermectin and the pandemic concern overdoses. I take it this is from people buying the drug from a farm supply and "prescribing" their own dose. So I'm not really concerned with this as it is related to stupidity rather than the medication itself.

But deaths and serious effects from Ivermectin have been reported prior to 2019. There was, for example, a study from 2018 studying serious adverse neurological effects from Ivermectin in treating patients in Africa. There was a 2017 study of deaths resulting from Ivermectin used to treat scabies.

The medication has been connected to neurotoxicity (seizures, disorientation, coma).

All studies I have read conclude the risks are worth the benefit.

I do hope the medication proves effective. My concern is with people just going to TSC and taking the drug believing it is safe.

Any sources on this? And I mean neutral sources, not NIH or the several others that have money ties to Fauci and or Gates.

Here is a good site of thirty studies on the efficacy of IVM.
COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 1,334 studies

 

[JonC]

Any sources on this? And I mean neutral sources, not NIH or the several others that have money ties to Fauci and or Gates.

Here is a good site of thirty studies on the efficacy of IVM.
COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 1,334 studies

I need to be clear - I am NOT saying Ivermectin does not (or does) work. I am saying that I hope the benefits outemweigh the risks but am concerned that some simply ignore a risk is present.

Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis?

Persistent Coma in Strongyloides Hyperinfection Syndrome Associated With Persistently Increased Ivermectin Levels

Deaths after Ivermectin treatment (1997)

Ivermectin Side Effects: Common, Severe, Long Term - Drugs.com

Serious Ivermectin Toxicity and Human ABCB1 Nonsense Mutations | NEJM

 

[asterisktom]

I need to be clear - I am NOT saying Ivermectin does not (or does) work. I am saying that I hope the benefits outemweigh the risks but am concerned that some simply ignore a risk is present.

Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis?

Persistent Coma in Strongyloides Hyperinfection Syndrome Associated With Persistently Increased Ivermectin Levels

Deaths after Ivermectin treatment (1997)

Ivermectin Side Effects: Common, Severe, Long Term - Drugs.com

Serious Ivermectin Toxicity and Human ABCB1 Nonsense Mutations | NEJM

Thank you for the links. Two of them are certainly not neutral sources so I would suspect slanting. The other two look interesting.

 

[JonC]

Thank you for the links. Two of them are certainly not neutral sources so I would suspect slanting. The other two look interesting.

I think it depends on what you mean by "neutral".

All of them come to the sane conclusions. There are risks (of course...there are ALWAYS risks) but the risks do not outweigh the benefit (for the paticular isdue.....however risks rise with various populations).

 

[percho]

It has been an issue for some time (pre-pandemic).

Current deaths (and serious medical issues) that I've read about with Ivermectin and the pandemic concern overdoses. I take it this is from people buying the drug from a farm supply and "prescribing" their own dose. So I'm not really concerned with this as it is related to stupidity rather than the medication itself.

But deaths and serious effects from Ivermectin have been reported prior to 2019. There was, for example, a study from 2018 studying serious adverse neurological effects from Ivermectin in treating patients in Africa. There was a 2017 study of deaths resulting from Ivermectin used to treat scabies.

The medication has been connected to neurotoxicity (seizures, disorientation, coma).

All studies I have read conclude the risks are worth the benefit.

I do hope the medication proves effective. My concern is with people just going to TSC and taking the drug believing it is safe.

I thought Ivermectin won a noble prize of something. Did they take the prize back?

 

[asterisktom]

I thought Ivermectin won a noble prize of something. Did they take the prize back?

I think Jon is trying to take it back

 

[asterisktom]

I think it depends on what you mean by "neutral".

Neutral - as in not financially controlled by Fauci-Gates money. But to know about that you would need to research that as well. I dont think you have.

 

[asterisktom]

I think it depends on what you mean by "neutral".

All of them come to the sane conclusions. There are risks (of course...there are ALWAYS risks) but the risks do not outweigh the benefit (for the paticular isdue.....however risks rise with various populations).

I think it depends on what you mean by "neutral".

All of them come to the sane conclusions. There are risks (of course...there are ALWAYS risks) but the risks do not outweigh the benefit (for the paticular isdue.....however risks rise with various populations).

Yes, there are always risks. The risks from IVM are certainly miniscule compared to those vaccines or Remdesivir. I am glad that I took the risk.

 

[JonC]

Neutral - as in not financially controlled by Fauci-Gates money. But to know about that you would need to research that as well. I dont think you have.

I have read a lot of conspiracy theories (that scientists work out of greed and are controlled by funding). But if that were true then I suspect the results would have been much better for the vaccines.