Not according to the Bible. There, we read that Mary would conceive in her womb, not that God would insert an already-exiisting embryo into her womb:
Luk 1:30 Then the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
Luk 1:31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.//]
When a surrogate mother got pregnant with a human embryo provided by another couple, by IVF, what do you call her pregnancy? She is conceived! So, Conceived doesn't distinguish between Biological mother and the surrogate mother!
So, you are claiming the body and the brain of Jesus was newly created in the womb of Mary?
What you are saying is that the brain of Jesus started to exist only after He was born out of Mary but still remember the actual experience with Abraham 2000 years earlier and eternity before.
She was not a surrogate mother. Prophecy says that a virgin would conceive. A surrogate mother doesn't conceive; she hosts an already-existing embryo.//]
Surrogate mother Conceive! when the embryo settles on the uterus! You misunderstand my points as if I deny the Virgin conceived a child. You may be claiming the Virgin create a baby without any external influx. You'd better check with OB doctors about the conception by the surrogate mothers. Hosting the already existing embryo is Conception!
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A surrogate mother conceives a baby through
In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) or, less commonly,
Intrauterine Insemination (IUI). The process involves creating an embryo in a laboratory using the egg and sperm from the intended parents or donors, which is then transferred to the surrogate’s uterus.
The method of conception determines the genetic relationship:
- Gestational Surrogacy: The surrogate carries an embryo created from the intended parents' or donors' egg and sperm. She has no genetic link to the baby. >>>>>
Conceive and Conception is different from Fertilization! Check with Internet!
When Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, II am," He was no more saying that He had a physical body before Abraham than when God the Father said to Moses://]
Apparently, Jesus remembers the event with Abraham which He personally, physically experienced. If the brain of Jesus was formed by the ovum of Mary, it should have been a new brain which had no memory of 2000 years earlier
NKJV Exo 3:14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.' "//]
Yes, the deity of Jesus covers Omni-presence space-wise and time-wise as He could bring up Elias and Moses ( Mt 17:3). I AM is the translation of the Haya verb in Hebrew which formed Yehowah and that same person is most likely Jesus Christ as Hebrews 11:26 says Moses <<6 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.>>>> Moses lived for Christ! How many Christ exist? only one. Jesus Christ!
Why was a prototype body needed for creating Adam's body? You might just as well claim that a prototype sun was needed before God could create the actual sun, but such things are just limiting God.//]
Because Bible says Gen 1:27 <<< וַיִּבְרָא אֱלֹהִים אֶת־הָאָדָם בְּצַלְמוֹ בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים בָּרָא אֹתוֹ>>> God created the adam in His Likeness of Likeness. Do you see the double repetition of Tselem of Elohim? Strong Emphasis! Sun, moon, snake, elephants, rabbit, mouse are the creatures produced by the Prototokos, but we human beings are different from other creatures. James 3:9 mention this so as to respect other human beings<<< 9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.>>>>
So, Bible itself says God used His own likeness to create a man. Whose likeness was used? Holy Spirit? God the Father? Bible has the answer here:
Col 1:15 <<< ὅς ἐστιν εἰκὼν τοῦ θεοῦ τοῦ ἀοράτου πρωτότοκος πάσης κτίσεως>>>>
Neither Holy Spirit nor God the Father was the prototokos for the Creation.
Ephesians 3:9 confirms this <<<< And to make all
men see what
is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:>>>>
All creation was done by Jesus and the human body was created in the likeness of Jesus Christ! Jesus had His own body!
John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
I am not limiting God but want everyone know about the Creator Jesus better and more accurately.
Yes, there are certainly Theophanies or Christophanies (pre-incarnate appearances of Christ) in the Old Testament, just as we have instances of angels, which are spiritual beings, appearing in bodily form. A Christophany is not the same is incarnation. The New Testament makes clear that Christ did not come in a pre-existing body:
NKJV Jhn 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
Heb 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU DID NOT DESIRE, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME.
That is not what the Bible tells us. Because Mary became pregnant by the operation of the Holy Spirit, Jesus was born without being what the Bible calls "in Adam."//]
Holy Spirit arranged the body of Jesus to be in the size and form of Embryo. You may know the human embryo is like New York or London, a huge city. At first Ovum may be like New York without electricity and water supply but the sperm like a size of San Francisco is added to New York, then it forms a perfect city structure, then when it is settled unto the uterus, it is connected with all the utilities like water supply, electricity, gas line, oxygen supply, energy and nutrition, waste water etc.
Jesus could see the future body He would enter in the future. That's what Jesus said in Hebrew 10:5. The arrangement was done by the Holy Spirit.
Word itself was God, the Almighty God in John 1:1-3. God the Word ( 1 John 5:7) could carry any form of flesh or body in any size and can transform it whatever in His manner.
Truth is that Mary belonged to First Adam, while Jesus didn't! Jesus Himself is another Adam or the Last Adam ( 1 Cor 15:45-47)
Jesus came down from Heaven ( John 6:38), but Mary didn't come down from Heaven. All the race of Adam was of the Earth but Jesus came from Heaven. Who else can say < I am from Heaven>?
Mary was of the earth. If the body of Jesus was formed by the ovum of Mary, Jesus couldn't say that He is from Heaven, because He is partly from the Earth and partly from Heaven. Nephilim was like that ( Gen 6:4)
Romans 5:12
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Death passed upon all men, which means Death passed upon Mary too. Body of Mary has got the death factors and her ovum was also contaminated with the sin and the death, because it is the organ thru which the death passed to the next generations.
Jesus didn't inherit any death factors from Mary.
Jesus was another Adam or the Last Adam and had the same body as the body of the first Adam before the FALL.
First Adam got the perfect body before the Fall, and by the sin, the death factors entered Adam and they passed upon all generations.
Jesus didn't fail even though He had the same body as the Adam's before the Fall.
Jesus didn't belong to Adam's race as Mary did. If the body of Jesus was formed by the ovum of Mary, the sinner, then the death factors would have been inherited by Jesus. It didn't happen to Jesus who is sinless, without blemish, without any factor of diabetes or MS or leukemia, High blood pressure, Blood clotting, or any syndrome etc.
Adam's race and Second Adam's race are totally different!
Jehovah ate the meal, bread, cake, veal meat, butter, milk, got His feet washed, spoke with Abraham and Sarah.
Moses spoke with Jehovah face to face. Jehovah had a body.
J.N. Darby said < To me, it is as clear as the Sun at noon time that Jesus is Jehovah of the OT>
It is the same to me as well.
Eliyahu
