Featured Jesus THE Creator - Part 1

Again, scripture cannot be broken. You cannot shop nullify scripture.
I am not going to waste time explaining who is being referred to in Genesis 1:1.

 

What does scripture say? I have answered this question more times than I can remember. John 3:18 ring a bell?

 

maybe all have sinned and in Adam?

 

Not at all. Logicly, if there is no subordination (any kind of difference) there can be no such thing as persons.

 

The three Persons are a 100% CO-EQUAL are so as the one and the same God. So unless rhere is also subordination of the Persons then are not they, such as Persons.
A son is subordinate to a father. One who is sent is subordenate to one's sender.

 

I apologize. I misunderstood your post.

peace to you

 

Order is a subordenation.

 

Rather than paraphrase John 3:18, Y1 wanders into Italy.

 

Once again we find a poster claiming he is a mind reader. I kid you not....

 

Isn’t that using man’s logic (Webster’s)

I haven’t seen anyone argue actual subordination, but functional subordination

peace to you

 

I appreciate your passion for your position, but please don’t refer to another position as nonsense.

Im really attempting to understand the issue here, and that doesn’t help.

As I see it, the question is:

Does a doctrine of functional subordination among co-equal persons within the Godhead necessarily mean actual subordination, leading to greater/lesser persons within the Godhead?

Biblically, it is clear there is no actual subordination within the Godhead. Each person contains all attributes of God.

Your initial post attempted to demonstrate through the study of Greek/Hebrew that scripture doesn’t really teach functional subordination beyond the incarnation.

I must admit I’m not convinced. You acknowledge functional subordination with the incarnation, but not prior or after.

Why does functional subordination during the incarnation not lead to the same issues you are arguing against... that is one person within the Godhead is “greater” than another? If it doesn’t, why would those issues arise prior to incarnation and after ascension?

I will consider all the info. I’ll even re-read your initial post which was not particularly clear to me.

Again, thanks for the info

peace to you

 

Then that would also mean the idea of an "eternal God" is humanly meaningless. Are you an irrationalist?

 

Yes. If they are a 1st, 2nd and so on. If they are equal they cannot be the same. The Persons who are God are one and the same God not three God's like 3 CEO's.