Joel Osteen Denies Christ on National TV

[whetstone]

That is hilarious!

 

[whetstone]

I mean osteen is such a poser.

 

[StefanM]

Osteen smiles way too much, so I have a hard time him seriously. Osteen makes this look like a smirk.

 

[D28guy]

whetstone,

What do you mean that someone is a "poser." Is it a mispelling or something? I've never heard of that word.

Mike

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

a poser is a fake or a phony.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[mcdirector]

Well, I am disappointed that Osteen was on Larry King and was so wishy-washy. How hard is it to say that the only way to God is through Jesus and my prayer for Muslims and Buddists (or whoever else was mentioned) is that they come to know Jesus? He could say all that with that smile of his. And sure it is God's job to judge what's in our hearts, but what comes out of someone's mouth (or lifestyle evidence) is a good place to start a critique of his/her belief system -- in order to share the gospel. How sad. He's got a huge following.

 

[JamesBell]

This wasn't my biggest problem with Osteen. Have you ever watched one of his sermons on television? They have a little show of holding up their Bibles and saying they believe them, then put them in their laps while Osteen gives a motivational speech. He will mention a verse from time to time, but God's Word seems to be a after thought for him. Maybe it is just me, but I thought that was supposed to be the center of our worship services.

 

[atestring]

I h3eard Brother joel on Larry king.
I am appalled that the title of this threasd implies that Joel Ostyeen denies christ. he did not!!!!!!!!
He has done a great job following in aHis fathers footsteps.
John Osteen was one of the greatest pastors that ever graced the United states.
I love his mother dottie Osteen. Have read hier book called "How i was Healed of cancer."

Winston Churchhill Once ssaid: " it takes a skilled carpenter to build a barn bu any ole Jack ass can tear one down."
That is my comment of those that try to claim a stupid accusation that Joel Osteen denied Jesus.
Shame on anyone that says this!!!!

 

[Orvie]

So, Joel's word is more important than God's? Mr Osteen is a "Smiling Pillow Prophet" read about him in Jer 23 (i.e., the likes of him there).

 

[Brian30755]

I h3eard Brother joel on Larry king.
I am appalled that the title of this threasd implies that Joel Ostyeen denies christ. he did not!!!!!!!!
He has done a great job following in aHis fathers footsteps.
John Osteen was one of the greatest pastors that ever graced the United states.
I love his mother dottie Osteen. Have read hier book called "How i was Healed of cancer."

Winston Churchhill Once ssaid: " it takes a skilled carpenter to build a barn bu any ole Jack ass can tear one down."
That is my comment of those that try to claim a stupid accusation that Joel Osteen denied Jesus.
Shame on anyone that says this!!!!

You don't have to take anyone's word for it. You can read the transcript on CNN's site and see exactly what he said. Here's the link.

 

[atestring]

I read it Brian.
I don't see Joel Osteen denying Jesus As The ChrisT.

Orvie can call him a pillow Prophet but I don't believe that is an accurate statement.

If that were true ,then one should pray rather thatn criticize a Pastor. But it simply is not true.
This is all I have to say on this subject.

 

[JamesBell]

OK, he did not deny Christ, he simply denied that Christ is, in fact, who He said He is. By not standing up and saying that Jesus is the only way to salvation, he did something that made everyone THINK he denied Christ. Either way, he should have known better and been better prepared for Larry King, unless the things said in this thread are true, which I hope they are not.

 

[atestring]

I think that there are people on a witch hunt and those that try to make a mountain out of a molehill.
There are folks that thrive on trying to find fault with people.
The Bible says, Judge not unless you be judged

 

[Marcia]

Originally posted by atestring:
I think that there are people on a witch hunt and those that try to make a mountain out of a molehill.
There are folks that thrive on trying to find fault with people.
The Bible says, Judge not unless you be judged

We are supposed to judge teachings by the Bible. When I criticize someone like Osteen, it's because of what he teaches. I am critiquing his teachings, not him as a person. That's irrelevant.

 

[atestring]

Marcia,
If Joel Osteen really denied Jesus I would not watch him
The problem is that I watched Joel Osteen and have read the transcript from the larry King show.
He proclaims Jesus. So what if he smiles? I think Jesus smiled and is probably still smiling.
MArcia you could learn from Joel Osteen .
He preaches Jesus and He is happy about Jesus.
Are you happy about Jesus?
Do you make people want to look to Jesus for the answers to lifes problems?
don't answer me answer these questions to yourself just as I ask myself these questions?

 

[Chemnitz]

The problem is that he flip-flopped faster than a Presidential Canidate. At one point Osteen nearly says that Jesus is the only way, but when King asks if he believes that Muslims, etc are wrong and going to Hell. He backtracks and says I don't want to judge.

I will admit I have a lot against Osteen and his teachings. When I worked as a chaplain with M.D. Anderson, I spent a fair bit of time dealing with the lives his preaching damaged, because they believed they did not have faith because they were still sick with cancer.

He had a great chance to proclaim Jesus as the great savior of the World but he blew it. No if's ands or buts about it, Osteen blew it. He had the chance to say that because these good people have been decieved and have misplaced faith in the teachings of a false prophet they are going to go to hell. But Jesus died and rose again so they don't have to suffer that fate and He wants to rescue them from that horrible fate. Unfortunately Mr. Osteen did not say that in a misguided attempt to look compassionate.
Matt 7:1 is not a commandment against Judgement rather a warning that by the measure you judge other you will also be judged. I am holding myself to the same standard I am holding Mr. Osteen to and I continually pray that God would lift me to that standard.

 

[atestring]

Originally posted by Chemnitz:
The problem is that he flip-flopped faster than a Presidential Canidate. At one point Osteen nearly says that Jesus is the only way, but when King asks if he believes that Muslims, etc are wrong and going to Hell. He backtracks and says I don't want to judge.

I will admit I have a lot against Osteen and his teachings. When I worked as a chaplain with M.D. Anderson, I spent a fair bit of time dealing with the lives his preaching damaged, because they believed they did not have faith because they were still sick with cancer.

He had a great chance to proclaim Jesus as the great savior of the World but he blew it. No if's ands or buts about it, Osteen blew it. He had the chance to say that because these good people have been decieved and have misplaced faith in the teachings of a false prophet they are going to go to hell. But Jesus died and rose again so they don't have to suffer that fate and He wants to rescue them from that horrible fate. Unfortunately Mr. Osteen did not say that in a misguided attempt to look compassionate.
Matt 7:1 is not a commandment against Judgement rather a warning that by the measure you judge other you will also be judged. I am holding myself to the same standard I am holding Mr. Osteen to and I continually pray that God would lift me to that standard.

Sounds like you had a bias before Joel Osteen was on Larry King.
This kind of bias causes one to try find fault with someone wheither they are right or wrong.

 

[leesw]

I have his book. Haven't read it yet. I think he's cheesy as a person.......but I could be wrong. I'll read the book and let you know. I'm sure you'll all be standing on pins and needles waiting for my review.

 

[Karen]

I know nothing really about Joel Osteen other than this thread. Sounds like room for concern.
However, it does sound like he repented of his unclear statements on Larry King. See Ben's posts.
It doesn't sound like that makes any difference to anybody.

Karen

 

[mcdirector]

I mentioned this thread to my husband -- he watches Larry King -- and his take about the interview was different from mine -- Even in his reading of the transcript. I think that the actual watching of the show must have made a difference. He also felt that Osteen had been waylaid (sp?) by King.

I read Osteen's apology. It appeared sincere and he made it clear what (and in whom) he believes.