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Cornelius was saved before He believed the Gospel! The scripture said that he feared God! Acts 10:2,22 and man by nature has no fear of God Rom 3:18!

 

I agree they certainly have a perverted form of the gospel (nearly all my aunts, uncles, grandparents are Catholic), but you must remember most of them do believe Jesus is God and that he died and rose again, thus this is a sign that they are born again. Scripture tells us, "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God" (1 John 5:1(a)) and 1 John 4:2, "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:"

Galatians 1:6 says, "6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" but notice Paul still refers to them as "brethren" in verse 11, thus though Catholics do have heretical doctrine such as baptismal regeneration, in a similar manner as did the saints at the church at Galatia believe false teachings of a works based gospel, most are born again as they do confess Jesus is God and died for sins and rose again.

The gospel is simply believing Jesus died for our sins and rose again. "15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

 

You continue to take scripture out of context.

I asked you before; I will ask you again.
Before you were saved, How much blood did you shed? How many people did you kill by your own hand?

Rom 3:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
--Were yours??

 

Did Cornelius fear God according to the scriptures? Read Acts 10:2,22 !

 

To have the simple belief in the deity of Christ and the resurrection of Christ is no sign that a person is born again. Many people have had those beliefs and are in hell today. Intellectualism does not get you to heaven.

Mat 7:22-23
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
--They knew the doctrine but not the Savior. There is a big difference.

Paul went on to say:
Gal 1:7-8
(7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
(8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
--Those that are accursed will never enter heaven.
Read Gal.3:10-13. Christ was made a curse for us that our sins might be forgiven.
The RCC does preach another gospel. It is a message of works, keeping laws, sacraments, doing good, etc. One does not get to heaven by their good works. That is what Hindus believe and every other world religion.
Salvation is by grace through faith and that not of yourself.
It is the gift of God not of works.

For the most part "they have believed in vain."
It is head knowledge and not personal knowledge. They know the facts but not the why. They believe in vain. They don't understand the gospel. They have never heard a "gospel message" which is not preached in the RCC.
Catholic doctrine is preached, not the Bible.

 

NO! He feared the God of the Jewish religion, a false religion.
Did Mother Theresa fear God?
Do the J.W.'s fear God?
Do the Mormon's fear God?
Sure, they all fear God, just like Cornelius did. That doesn't mean they have been regenerated. It simply means they were religious.

 

The scripture said that He feared God! Read Acts 10:2,22 ! I believe the scriptures over you!

 

Very true. Solid post. Therefore it will be dismissed by DHK.

 

What a lousy post DHK. You can be so unscriptural at times.

Do the "prayers" of Mormons and J.W.'s ascend as a memorial offering to God?

Of course not. They and Mother Teresa are not, and were not in the fear of God.

 

It is impossible for Catholics to remain in Mystery Babylon and expect to be saved.

The warnings in Scripture are numerous, including the command to 'come out of her, my people.'

Catholics worship a false Christ whom their antichrists conjure at will demanding they eat His literal body, soul, blood, and divinity.

The Mass is Satanism at its highest perversity.

 

It depends on motive and purpose. If the motive and purpose of any particular J.W. or Mormon is to seek God and His salvation then I believe that God would arrange circumstances to see that the gospel be given to that individual just as it was to Cornelius. That is the lesson being taught here.
Men do seek God. In general they do not, but they are commanded to, and some do.

Therefore:
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
--God will remain true to his promise.

 

But the Bible says : No not one.

"In general" "some do" --you are being anti-scriptural again.

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

That's what the Bible says. Are you going to come up with your "in general" business again?

 

DHK wrote:

DHK is making the case that until Cornelius heard the Gospel he was not saved.

Obviously it was an act of loving grace that the Lord sent Peter to him.

The Messiah foretold in the OT had come in the person of Jesus Christ.

Now Cornelius could place his faith in the Messiah who had come.

But what of the billions who had no OT revelation, who had never heard of the Gospel of grace in Jesus Christ?

These are the billions whom DHK insists were loved by God since he believes God loves every person ever born.

But what kind of love leaves men in darkness without knowledge of the true God and the salvation which comes only through faith in His Son?

No matter which way DHK turns, his doctrines conflict with each other.

The truth, however, never contradicts itself.

Cornelius was a forerunner of the predestined Gentiles elected to salvation before the foundation of the world; whom God would call, regenerate, give the gifts of faith and repentance toward God, justify, sanctify and glorify.

 

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Some snips from this thread of DHK's history regarding his take on 1 Cor. 2:14 :

"The context is not about the unsaved." (post 68)
"Paul is not describing an unsaved person." (post 97)
"It says nothing about an unregenerate person but one who hasn't grown in Christ." (post 102)
"They are carnal Christians." (post 107)
"There is no 'non-Christian' described in the above verse."
"There is no reason to,...interpret the verse as an unsaved person." (post 112)
"There is no 'non-Christian' described in the above verse." (post 118)
"But 'unspiritual' does not have to mean 'unsaved' and that is not what the text demands." (post 132)
"The point is: It may describe an unsaved man." (post 134)
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Now we will witness the history of DHK's remarks regarding Acts 10. Will he backtrack?
More importantly, will he be able to admit that he is wrong, or simply move on?

 

To whom was Cornelius praying?

The Archangel

 

This is taking the reference of him being a "God fearer" too far.

And, if he were saved why, then, is he instructed to send for Peter and why, when upon hearing the Gospel, does he repent and believe?

If Cornelius was already saved, why did he need to be saved again?

The Archangel

 

:laughroverbs 24:30

I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;:wavey::thumbs:

 

I believe he was a proselyte who was being transitioned from Old Covenant to New....like those in Acts 19......the gospel was going to the gentiles as per Isa49....
49 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The Lord hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;

3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the Lord, and my work with my God.

5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength.

6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

7 Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

8 Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.

10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.

11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.

12 Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.

13 Sing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the Lord hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.

14 But Zion said, The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.

15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.

16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

17 Thy children shall make haste; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee.

18 Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the Lord, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.

19 For thy waste and thy desolate places, and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away.

20 The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell.

21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?

22 Thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.
23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?

25 But thus saith the Lord, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.

26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.



if he was still being effectually drawn and prepared...or was an OT believer being drawn savingly...I leave that to God.