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Not so much offended, but simply calling out personal attacks and lies.
I thought Ms. Clinton was absolutely wrong to say such things. But that doesn't seem to matter to people around here. CMG was happy to suggest that I had that attitude and agreed with her about people here, and I simply pointed out that HE was the one who was pinning that label on himself and others, not me. That's when you jumped in to tell me I was wrong, when I was not wrong at all.
I don't believe in the "deep state" conspiracy cooked up by Alex Jones and brought into the mainstream by the President's media mouthpiece, Sean Hannity, so you are correct. I don't deal in fantasy.
I see the mockery, but my issues with Trump go way back to the birtherism hoax that he milked -- he was always on the verge of revealing something big about Obama, but never produced anything but rhetoric. There was simply nothing to birtherism. Then his campaign began, with its racist, nativist, and anti-Constitutional rhetoric and campaign promises, as well as the rampant dishonesty. Then he became President and continued that pattern, and worse.
No, the dishonesty, corruption and the damage being done to "the least of these" offends my sensibilities. As a disciple of Jesus, I can't and won't ignore the clear teachings of Jesus to kiss up to political leaders who might give me some sort of political advantage. That simply results in a corruption of the gospel, the cynicism of unbelievers, and dragging the name of Jesus through the dirt. I work with teens, college students and young adults, and they see clearly that most of the "conservative" church in the United States is now really the "church of Trump," not of Jesus. That's appalling.
The President and his supporters like to slap the label, "fake news," on everything they don't like, while at the same time, creating an alternate reality that does not have much basis in truth. I don't let media pundits think for me. Remember, I pay attention to what the President says, writes, and does. I don't embrace the spin from any angle.
So you won't deal with the issue until I somehow get the worldwide media to shut down criticism of the President? I haven't heard the conspiracy theory that "Baptist Believer" controls the media. You may not believe it, but I have no power over the worldwide media.
You are not connected with reality if that's what you think this is. People who call themselves "Christians" have abandoned most of what they believe for the sake of what they think is political power, and you think my grief and concern over it is "sour grapes."
I once had a boss that was so two-faced, that it was considered it a compliment when he disagreed with you!
Yes, we obviously have very different outlooks. Like I said, I will be glad to deal with any little issues, if there are actually any left, after the Deep State and Dem MSM are cooperating to head this country in the right direction. Right now, the President has a job to do and is handling it amazingly well, even while up to his neck in “swamp creatures” that need the progressive leftism choked out of them. Siding with their outrageously false, hypocritical assessments of Trump does you no credit and no one of good conscience should join in.
You are in denial.
Your use of the expression, "Deep State," shows that you have embraced the Alex Jones/Fox News conspiracy delusions. Our perspectives on reality and truth are so different, I don't think we can have a productive conversation.
If you stop looking at the extremists and look at your Christian brothers and sisters who oppose Trump and his enablers BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS COUNTRY, maybe you would feel comfortable not defending everything that Trump does.
If you had not noticed, I wrote "anti-Constitutional rhetoric," not 'exceeded his Constitutional authority.' I was referring to his campaign speeches where he regularly attacked religious liberty and freedom of the press.
I don't think I have ever made an ad-hominem attack against Donald Trump. Moreover, my viewpoints are not based on "liberal Trump hating talking points," but actually listening to what the man has said, what he is saying currently, and what he has written in his Tweets... in a word, reality.
I'm sure you are smart enough to know that I am talking about motivation, not the mechanics of the voting process. If we are going to play the game of assigning motivations based on the limited choices in the voting booth, then I can make the accusation that you voted for Trump based on your approval of his "Access Hollywood" comments, since you obviously approve of him grabbing women and trying to force himself on a married woman. But of course, that would be a stupid argument.
I voted strategically for the better result. I won't quite say "lesser of two evils," because I cast a ballot for some Republicans that I don't care for to hold Ms. Clinton accountable. I lost all the way around.
I assumed such at thing because I knew the character of both Ms. Clinton and Mr. Trump. I know you wrote this a couple of weeks ago, but impeachment is about to happen for Mr. Trump, and there is a possibility that he might be removed from office since he has turned into a huge liability for Republicans. They have painted themselves into a corner with Trump. If they get rid of him, that probably won't remove the stain of three years of defending Trump's abuses. If they keep him, they will likely be annihilated in the next election.
I don't know what you are trying to say here, but it is not a strategy. It is a recognition of the sad state of American politics.
You apparently don't understand what I wrote... I voted for Republicans to hold Ms. Clinton accountable.
Some are, but most are not. We can see that now.
No, I voted against Trump.
That part is over. Mueller demonstrated Trump's crimes of obstruction, and that may come into play in the coming weeks.
You are projecting your own views onto me.
I don't have enough time to go into it at the moment, I have to go to work. But it you can't recognize his racism, you must share his viewpoint.
This is where you are going way wrong. I don’t defend or intend to defend every little thing Trump may or may not have done or said. Not my job. I’m looking at the big picture, not at my Christian brethren who just like to nitpick (cf. “strain at a gnat and swallow a camel”) or allow themselves to be deceived by the twisted rhetoric of the Progressive Left media.
