Jury Verdict

[Salty]

Yes, cops need to stand down.

Just keep that in mind when you become a victim - and the cops are afraid of doing anything to the perpetrator.

The lives of law enforcement should be ruin when they murder black people.

So its okay to murder an Asian?

 

[Salty]

Why would I be banned?!? I'm not the one peddling hate or name-calling. That's you...oh your hypocrisy is astounding.

Okay play time is over - lets act like adults and as Christians

 

[robustheologian]

Just keep that in mind when you become a victim - and the cops are afraid of doing anything to the perpetrator.

The funny thing is that if I'm a victim there's a great chance a cop would be the perpetrator.

So its okay to murder an Asian?

Contrary to what the people who believe George Floyd deserved to be murdered think, murder is wrong.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I have not been following this closely. Can someone explain the legal reasoning of the two murder charges and one manslaughter charge for one death?

Thanks.

Multiple charges are given so that if the prosecution cannot argue for the more serious charge, the lesser charge can still be applied. The jury needs to rule on all charges.

If multiple guilty verdicts are arrived at, they are served concurrently so only the duration of incarceration for the most serious charge will matter.

 

[robustheologian]

no reason in particular legally, they just voted guilty. This will be appealed.

It's amazing how people can see a man murder another man and call it right just because the murderer is white and the one being murdered was black. Thank God he "does what pleases in heaven and on earth" and that the prayers of the righteous avail much.

 

[robustheologian]

Multiple charges are given so that if the prosecution cannot argue for the more serious charge, the lesser charge can still be applied. The jury needs to rule on all charges.

If multiple guilty verdicts are arrived at, they are served concurrently so only the duration of incarceration for the most serious charge will matter.

Bingo.

 

[Salty]

The funny thing is that if I'm a victim there's a great chance a cop would be the perpetrator.

You need to read what I wrote - why are you afraid to answer that question ???

Contrary to what the people who believe George Floyd deserved to be murdered think, murder is wrong.

YOU SAID it was wrong to murder a black man - which could mean only.
So I am asking - is it murder to kill an Asian

Why are you afraid to answer the question asked?

 

[robustheologian]

You need to read what I wrote - why are you afraid to answer that question ???

Did you even read what you wrote? There was no question in your first comment.

YOU SAID it was wrong to murder a black man - which could mean only.
So I am asking - is it murder to kill an Asian

Why are you afraid to answer the question asked?

What type of logic implies only in a statement such as "it was wrong to murder a black man"?!?
And I answered the question, it's as wrong to murder an Asian as it is to kill a black man since murder is wrong.

 

[JonC]

The funny thing is that if I'm a victim there's a great chance a cop would be the perpetrator.

Interesting. The funny thing is that if a police officer is a victim odds are a black man would be the perpetrator. If a black man is shot odds are another black man was the perpetrator.

If I am the victim chances are a black man is the perpetrator (chances are that a police officer is not).

I think one problem is each side is too one sided.

One side denies racist stereotypes exist. The other side sees only racism.

Both are equally wrong, just in different directions.

 

[Salty]

What type of logic implies only in a statement such as "it was wrong to murder a black man"?!?
And I answered the question, it's as wrong to murder an Asian as it is to kill a black man since murder is wrong.

It was YOUR logic I was asking about.

 

[robustheologian]

It was YOUR logic I was asking about.

But you were the one imposing "only" on an independent statement.

 

[Salty]

My head hurts ........

 

[AustinC]

You need to read what I wrote - why are you afraid to answer that question ???






YOU SAID it was wrong to murder a black man - which could mean only.
So I am asking - is it murder to kill an Asian

Why are you afraid to answer the question asked?

Salty, you are being silly. You know full well he meant that all murder is wrong, but in this case the murder was that of a black man.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Yes, I get the first part. Here you would have the other charges in case the jury is not willing to convict of the highest level crime. Since they did convict of the most serious charge, I don't see the point of considering the lesser charge.

The reason for applying multiple guilty verdicts in murder/manslaughter cases is so that if the more serious charge gets overturned on appeal, the lesser charges could still be applied.

 

[SavedByGrace]

It will be appealed and overturned.

boy you are rather silly!

 

[SavedByGrace]

The lives of law enforcement should be ruin when they murder black people

now you speak as a FOOL! The problem is that people like you and BLM ARE the MAIN problem, both there in the USA and here in the UK. IF you follow the Teachings of the Holy Bible, then ALL lives MATTER to the Lord! Not just black people.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Thankfully, your wrong opinion doesn't matter....but obviously the life of the black man George Floyd mattered.

ALL LIVES MATTER. It is stupid remarks like this that only make things even more difficult for black people, it does not help.

 

[Salty]

Salty, you are being silly. You know full well he meant that all murder is wrong, but in this case the murder was that of a black man.

Evidently you did not get the point I was trying to make.
He said "The lives of law enforcement should be ruin when they murder black people."
There was NO need to include the word "Black"

Lets see what it says now: <The lives of law enforcement should be ruin when they murder people.>
and notice - I didnt list gender either.

and what I find disgusting is that people were cheering that a person was found guildy.
I understand for someone to sigh a breath of relief - but for anyone in that crowd who
professes to be a Christian - should be ashamed of themselves for cheering.

Interesting - they were all praying for justice - but what would the reaction have been if
he had been found innocent on all counts?

Remember - there could be an appeal - and lest say he is found innocent of at least one of the charges......

 

[Salty]

ALL LIVES MATTER. It is stupid remarks like this that only make things even more difficult for black people, it does not help.

I have been told that we are being racists if we say "All Lives Matter".

Go figure

 

[Gold Dragon]

what I find disgusting is that people were cheering that a person was found guildy.

There is nothing disgusting about cheering when an obviously guilty person is declared guilty. That is a cheer for the justice system doing its job which unfortunately does not happen as often as it should.