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Sigh, your lack of understanding is evident as you claim prooftexts in a similar fashion to our enemy, the devil. Please don't fall into his trap.

 

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

You said earlier that one of my fellow robots were putting one scripture against another, well Kyred, show how your thoughts in romans 2 blend with Pauls scripture here.

 

Ok, I get it, you're unable to show from scripture that justification is by our faith alone. Join the crowd. Drop man's addition to the gospel that one word 'alone', and there's no problem. But the Church dictates to you what you should believe and that's what you parrot. You truly are a robot.

 

Kyred, If you work through the answers offered by the robots, are you sure they do not agree and include romans 2 into the justification/ sanctification scheme as offered in the confession of faith?

 

“There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek.”

- Romans 2:9–10

Christians have pored over Scripture for two thousand years, studying what it says about salvation. In so doing, they have noted that God’s Word often refers to salvation as a temporal sequence. For example, Romans 8:30 gives us this order of redemption: first God predestines (chooses someone for salvation in eternity past); then He calls (regenerates an elect person by the Spirit); next He justifies (imputes to a regenerate person the righteousness of Christ); and finally He glorifies (grants a justified person a resurrection body).

Importantly, the tenses of the verbs in Romans 8:30 indicate that if God does any of the things mentioned, He does them all. In other words, no one who is predestined will fail to be justified, and the Lord will certainly glorify everyone who is justified. God never starts the work of salvation without finishing it (Phil. 1:6). The predestined person is always called, justified, and glorified. That is how God always saves people.

Remembering this point will help us as we consider Paul’s teaching in Romans 2:6–11. As we saw yesterday, verses 6–8 seem to indicate at first glance that God grants us eternal life based on our good works, and verses 9–10 seem to teach the same thing. Yet as we have also seen, Paul is clear—even in the book of Romans—that it is impossible for sinners to merit heaven by their deeds (3:21–26; 11:5–6). Only the grace of God in imputing to us the merit of Christ by faith alone can justify a sinner. How, then, can we fit all this together?

The key is noting that Romans 8:30 does not tell us all that God does in salvation. It does not explicitly mention sanctification, wherein the Holy Spirit conforms us to Christ in thought, word, and deed. Still, Paul does put sanctification in the order of salvation (Rom. 6:20–23). There is no such thing as an elect and justified person who is not being sanctified.

What does this mean for Romans 2:6–11? John Calvin puts it well in book 3 of his Institutes of the Christian Religion: “The passages in which it is said that God will reward every man according to his works … [indicate] not the cause but the order of sequence.” Our obedience is part of the temporal order by which the Lord finally brings us into glory, but it is not in any sense whatsoever the reason God gives us His kingdom. We enter His kingdom solely on account of the perfect righteousness of Christ, which the Father graciously imputes to us through our faith in Christ alone. Our justification makes us kingdom citizens. Our sanctification proves that we have been justified.

Calvin also writes in the Institutes that as soon as believers are “admitted to fellowship with Christ, by the knowledge of the gospel, and the illumination of the Holy Spirit, their eternal life is begun, and then He which has begun a good work in them ‘will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.’” God will never fail to sanctify a person whom He justifies, and so the justified person will always die in faith and enter heaven. Let us rejoice that He will not let us fall out of His hand.

The Sequence of Salvation

 

I and others have shown it, but the reception in Kentucky is experiencing much static and poor reception.You have not responded to the questions asked in the last 10 posts? why is that?
I gave you my own words, and no response? answer line by line, show how gal 2:16 does not say it clear as day!
I cannot force you to welcome truth, but offer your answers...i do not think you can go line by line and do it, so you try and dismiss what was posted???you can do better.

 

No. You haven't.

 

I do not think you are getting what we are offering here.

The alone, stands alone because the object of our God-given faith....is Jesus.
Faith in Him for salvation, justification, and sanctification stands alone.
We are unprofitable servants, working in the Kingdom vineyard. You know this!

 

well...this thread will end soon,I can only offer what I can.
I would ask you to sleep on it, re-read with your morning coffee, and consider where the truth is;
Titus3
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Acts15;
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

 

Perspicuity of the Scriptures. The Right of Private Judgment | Monergism

You offered this earlier, do you find fault with this?
How so?
It is not denied that the people, learned and unlearned, in order to the proper understanding of the Scriptures, should not only compare Scripture with Scripture, and avail themselves of all the means in their power to aid them in their search after the truth, but they should also pay the greatest deference to the faith of the Church. If the Scriptures be a plain book, and the Spirit performs the functions of a teacher to all the children of God, it follows inevitably that they must agree in all essential matters in their interpretation of the Bible. And from that fact it follows that for an individual Christian to dissent from the faith of the universal Church (i.e., the body of true believers), is tantamount to dissenting from the Scriptures themselves.

 

Are deliberately trying to malign me? If so you're a snake Icon. If you're unable to see that The Right Of Private Judgement is precious to me you're either a snake or just plumb dense. Dense like a robot.

 

And what 'universal church' teaches the unscriptural doctrine of justification by faith alone?

"The Bible is a plain book. It is intelligible by the people. And they have the right, and are bound to read and interpret it for themselves; so that their faith may rest on the testimony of the Scriptures, and not on that of the Church. Such is the doctrine of Protestants on this subject...."

Go right ahead robot, follow blindly what your 'universal church' dictates to you what you should believe. RCC repeat.

 

We each give account of ourselves to God.
Scripture is primary for sure.
I have no need to malign you.
Keep in mind...you stirred up the Reformed Robot posse. We have responded..waiting for your response in detail..calling me a snake is not getting it done. I posted the paragraph that I thought balanced that article.
Here is another thought. History says Luther was crawling up and down steps on his knees trying to do good works when the truth was opened to him

He was tormented by not knowing how many works were enough.
Then he learned it was all of grace... not works that we do

 

I do not believe in a universal church...but I did not write the article

 

Look at what you are posting
..according to you everyone in church history has it wrong...the reformers puritans teachers commentators are all wrong on scripture based on your faulty understanding of Roman's 2..not likely my friend.
The 5 solas stand intact

 

Yes, that I did.

Ok. You haven't changed anything.

If you're trying to malign me for my belief in My Right Of Private Judgement you're as wretched as any wicked Romanist there ever was. That's precisely what tyrants have always done.

I posted the paragraph that makes my point, I refuse to be a robot. When the scripture very plainly says 'justification is NOT by faith only' and presents many other justifications and then some 'church' is saying 'justification by faith only', well, that 'church' can go jump in the lake....

I have no idea how this relates to the Bema Judgement where we will all be judged by our works. NEVER is our faith, let alone our 'faith alone', mentioned in the scriptures when it comes to this judgement. It's every bit about works.