Where do we ever find "accept Jesus into your heart" in the Bible?
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Justified By Works
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Rejection of Pauline Justification!
What can add to the finished work of Christ upon the cross?
Some seem to have an interesting take on how God saves us!
Attention Reformed robots, the Confession is speaking;
Chapter 16: Of Good Works
1._____ Good works are only such as God hath commanded in his Holy Word, and not such as without the warrant thereof are devised by men out of blind zeal, or upon any pretence of good intentions.
( Micah 6:8; Hebrews 13:21; Matthew 15:9; Isaiah 29:13 )
2._____ These good works, done in obedience to God's commandments, are the fruits and evidences of a true and lively faith; and by them believers manifest their thankfulness, strengthen their assurance, edify their brethren, adorn the profession of the gospel, stop the mouths of the adversaries, and glorify God, whose workmanship they are, created in Christ Jesus thereunto, that having their fruit unto holiness they may have the end eternal life.
( James 2:18, 22; Psalms 116:12, 13; 1 John 2:3, 5; 2 Peter 1:5-11; Matthew 5:16; 1 Timothy 6:1; 1 Peter 2:15; Philippians 1:11; Ephesians 2:10; Romans 6:22 )
3._____ Their ability to do good works is not at all of themselves, but wholly from the Spirit of Christ; and that they may be enabled thereunto, besides the graces they have already received, there is necessary an actual influence of the same Holy Spirit, to work in them to will and to do of his good pleasure; yet they are not hereupon to grow negligent, as if they were not bound to perform any duty, unless upon a special motion of the Spirit, but they ought to be diligent in stirring up the grace of God that is in them.
( John 15:4, 5; 2 Corinthians 3:5; Philippians 2:13; Philippians 2:12; Hebrews 6:11, 12; Isaiah 64:7 )
4._____ They who in their obedience attain to the greatest height which is possible in this life, are so far from being able to supererogate, and to do more than God requires, as that they fall short of much which in duty they are bound to do.
( Job 9:2, 3; Galatians 5:17; Luke 17:10 )
5._____ We cannot by our best works merit pardon of sin or eternal life at the hand of God, by reason of the great disproportion that is between them and the glory to come, and the infinite distance that is between us and God, whom by them we can neither profit nor satisfy for the debt of our former sins;
but when we have done all we can, we have done but our duty, and are unprofitable servants; and because as they are good they proceed from his Spirit, and as they are wrought by us they are defiled and mixed with so much weakness and imperfection, that they cannot endure the severity of God's punishment.
( Romans 3:20; Ephesians 2:8, 9; Romans 4:6; Galatians 5:22, 23; Isaiah 64:6; Psalms 143:2 )
6._____ Yet notwithstanding the persons of believers being accepted through Christ, their good works also are accepted in him; not as though they were in this life wholly unblameable and unreprovable in God's sight, but that he, looking upon them in his Son, is pleased to accept and reward that which is sincere, although accompanied with many weaknesses and imperfections.
( Ephesians 1:6; 1 Peter 2:5; Matthew 25:21, 23; Hebrews 6:10 )
7._____ Works done by unregenerate men, although for the matter of them they may be things which God commands, and of good use both to themselves and others; yet because they proceed not from a heart purified by faith, nor are done in a right manner according to the word, nor to a right end, the glory of God,
hey are therefore sinful, and cannot please God, nor make a man meet to receive grace from God, and yet their neglect of them is more sinful and displeasing to God.
( 2 Kings 10:30; 1 Kings 21:27, 29; Genesis 4:5; Hebrews 11:4, 6; 1 Corinthians 13:1; Matthew 6:2, 5; Amos 5:21, 22; Romans 9:16; Titus 3:5; Job 21:14, 15; Matthew 25:41-43 )
Chapter 16: Of Good Works
1._____ Good works are only such as God hath commanded in his Holy Word, and not such as without the warrant thereof are devised by men out of blind zeal, or upon any pretence of good intentions.
( Micah 6:8; Hebrews 13:21; Matthew 15:9; Isaiah 29:13 )
2._____ These good works, done in obedience to God's commandments, are the fruits and evidences of a true and lively faith; and by them believers manifest their thankfulness, strengthen their assurance, edify their brethren, adorn the profession of the gospel, stop the mouths of the adversaries, and glorify God, whose workmanship they are, created in Christ Jesus thereunto, that having their fruit unto holiness they may have the end eternal life.
( James 2:18, 22; Psalms 116:12, 13; 1 John 2:3, 5; 2 Peter 1:5-11; Matthew 5:16; 1 Timothy 6:1; 1 Peter 2:15; Philippians 1:11; Ephesians 2:10; Romans 6:22 )
3._____ Their ability to do good works is not at all of themselves, but wholly from the Spirit of Christ; and that they may be enabled thereunto, besides the graces they have already received, there is necessary an actual influence of the same Holy Spirit, to work in them to will and to do of his good pleasure; yet they are not hereupon to grow negligent, as if they were not bound to perform any duty, unless upon a special motion of the Spirit, but they ought to be diligent in stirring up the grace of God that is in them.
( John 15:4, 5; 2 Corinthians 3:5; Philippians 2:13; Philippians 2:12; Hebrews 6:11, 12; Isaiah 64:7 )
4._____ They who in their obedience attain to the greatest height which is possible in this life, are so far from being able to supererogate, and to do more than God requires, as that they fall short of much which in duty they are bound to do.
( Job 9:2, 3; Galatians 5:17; Luke 17:10 )
5._____ We cannot by our best works merit pardon of sin or eternal life at the hand of God, by reason of the great disproportion that is between them and the glory to come, and the infinite distance that is between us and God, whom by them we can neither profit nor satisfy for the debt of our former sins;
but when we have done all we can, we have done but our duty, and are unprofitable servants; and because as they are good they proceed from his Spirit, and as they are wrought by us they are defiled and mixed with so much weakness and imperfection, that they cannot endure the severity of God's punishment.
( Romans 3:20; Ephesians 2:8, 9; Romans 4:6; Galatians 5:22, 23; Isaiah 64:6; Psalms 143:2 )
6._____ Yet notwithstanding the persons of believers being accepted through Christ, their good works also are accepted in him; not as though they were in this life wholly unblameable and unreprovable in God's sight, but that he, looking upon them in his Son, is pleased to accept and reward that which is sincere, although accompanied with many weaknesses and imperfections.
( Ephesians 1:6; 1 Peter 2:5; Matthew 25:21, 23; Hebrews 6:10 )
7._____ Works done by unregenerate men, although for the matter of them they may be things which God commands, and of good use both to themselves and others; yet because they proceed not from a heart purified by faith, nor are done in a right manner according to the word, nor to a right end, the glory of God,
hey are therefore sinful, and cannot please God, nor make a man meet to receive grace from God, and yet their neglect of them is more sinful and displeasing to God.
( 2 Kings 10:30; 1 Kings 21:27, 29; Genesis 4:5; Hebrews 11:4, 6; 1 Corinthians 13:1; Matthew 6:2, 5; Amos 5:21, 22; Romans 9:16; Titus 3:5; Job 21:14, 15; Matthew 25:41-43 )
Indeed, rejection of the Cross of Christ in a sense!
Bible very clear that if we mix at all good works with saving grace, deny the real Gospel!
Mikey
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James 2:24 “You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone”
The entire James 2:14–26 passage is about demostrating the genuineness of your faith by what you do. A genuine salvation experience by faith in Jesus Christ will inevitably result in good works (Ephesians 2:10). The works are the demonstration and proof of faith (James 2:18). A faith without works is useless (James 2:20) and dead (James 2:17) it is not genuine faith.
The entire James 2:14–26 passage is about demostrating the genuineness of your faith by what you do. A genuine salvation experience by faith in Jesus Christ will inevitably result in good works (Ephesians 2:10). The works are the demonstration and proof of faith (James 2:18). A faith without works is useless (James 2:20) and dead (James 2:17) it is not genuine faith.
Lol, what happened to 'Sola Scriptua', robot? You all get your brains sucked out and replaced with creeds, solas, and confessions and never have an original Bible thought of your own after that and then feel you've the authority to critique those that do exercise their Right Of Private Judgement.
Now THAT sounds like a reversion, a repeat, back to the days of RCC.
9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Ecc 1
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<squawk> parrot <squawk> You're no student of the word,
Funny since I have provided much scripture. I take your comments as a way for you to leave without grace.
"kyredneck,
As you seem to have an aversion to confession, creeds, and Catechisms I would like to point out from the confession of faith, its first article, notice Kyred, the numbers at the bottom are all SCRIPTURES;
Chapter 1: Of the Holy Scriptures
1._____ The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience, although the light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men inexcusable; yet are they not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and his will which is necessary unto salvation. Therefore it pleased the Lord at sundry times and in divers manners to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his church; and afterward for the better preserving and propagating of the truth, and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the church against the corruption of the flesh, and the malice of Satan, and of the world, to commit the same wholly unto writing; which maketh the Holy Scriptures to be most necessary, those former ways of God's revealing his will unto his people being now ceased.
( 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Isaiah 8:20; Luke 16:29, 31; Ephesians 2:20; Romans 1:19-21; Romans 2:14,15; Psalms 19:1-3; Hebrews 1:1; Proverbs 22:19-21; Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19,20 )
NOT ONLY DOES THE FIRST LINE ESTABLISH SCRIPTURE ALONE AS OUR ONLY RULE,IT THEN OFFERS 22 SUCH VERSES....
On the contrary my friend, I have all manner of my own thoughts on various topics. When preparing a lesson, I do so on my own, with prayer and an open bible. Then I check and see if more gifted persons have been granted by God things I was was unable to see.
I put my thoughts down on paper,see what verses I used. Then I see if Spurgeon preached on the text, pull those volumes in which he addressed the texts. More often then not we agree, but several times he was granted wisdom and other portions of scripture that had not crossed my mind. If time permits, I will then access commentaries, and word study books, Confessions and Catechisms. The study tools are protection against false ideas and novelties. I do not want to stray too far from what God has given to more gifted persons.
Kyred, when you or others offer such a critical post, I cannot help to think that what you are suggesting is a theological Russian roulette. You just trust in your own understanding, pull the trigger, and this can work, until the time you pull the trigger on a loaded chamber of error.
Hello Kyred, Hope all is well with you and yours
As you seem to have an aversion to confession, creeds, and Catechisms I would like to point out from the confession of faith, its first article, notice Kyred, the numbers at the bottom are all SCRIPTURES;
Chapter 1: Of the Holy Scriptures
1._____ The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience, although the light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men inexcusable; yet are they not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and his will which is necessary unto salvation. Therefore it pleased the Lord at sundry times and in divers manners to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his church; and afterward for the better preserving and propagating of the truth, and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the church against the corruption of the flesh, and the malice of Satan, and of the world, to commit the same wholly unto writing; which maketh the Holy Scriptures to be most necessary, those former ways of God's revealing his will unto his people being now ceased.
( 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Isaiah 8:20; Luke 16:29, 31; Ephesians 2:20; Romans 1:19-21; Romans 2:14,15; Psalms 19:1-3; Hebrews 1:1; Proverbs 22:19-21; Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19,20 )
NOT ONLY DOES THE FIRST LINE ESTABLISH SCRIPTURE ALONE AS OUR ONLY RULE,IT THEN OFFERS 22 SUCH VERSES....
On the contrary my friend, I have all manner of my own thoughts on various topics. When preparing a lesson, I do so on my own, with prayer and an open bible. Then I check and see if more gifted persons have been granted by God things I was was unable to see.
I put my thoughts down on paper,see what verses I used. Then I see if Spurgeon preached on the text, pull those volumes in which he addressed the texts. More often then not we agree, but several times he was granted wisdom and other portions of scripture that had not crossed my mind. If time permits, I will then access commentaries, and word study books, Confessions and Catechisms. The study tools are protection against false ideas and novelties. I do not want to stray too far from what God has given to more gifted persons.
Kyred, when you or others offer such a critical post, I cannot help to think that what you are suggesting is a theological Russian roulette. You just trust in your own understanding, pull the trigger, and this can work, until the time you pull the trigger on a loaded chamber of error.
No. You haven't.
Not interested Icon. I love you brother, we're probably 90% or more in agreement on essential doctrines, but forget the creeds, solas, and confessions with me and show me your thoughts, not the thoughts of others. For instance:
...the righteous judgment of God; who will render to every man according to his works: to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life: Ro 2:5-7
How does that fit into the Reformed 'faith alone' scheme. Works are plainly in view here.
YOUR thoughts Icon, NOT the Church's dictates.
Kyred, I agree we agree mostly
Romans 2 is a great section of scripture, as is Mt 25:30-46....
Works are judged...both for the believer;1cor 3;8-15
and those of the unbelieverMt.25
The godly works show their root...they are generated by God working in us to His honor and glory.
The selfish self willed works of the wicked are rejected as selfish and sinful works, as Cain's offering was rejected.
2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the Lord pondereth the hearts.
3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.
4 An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.
Your wicked neighbor plowed his field like you did....why is his plowing sin?
Justification is clearly "through Faith" alone, because the instrument of God-given faith let's us lay hold of Christ....whose WORKS ALONE...actually are the basis of our salvation.
His works are perfect and His works alone are only the ones that are accepted.
the works spoken of in Romans 2 that are accepted are only accepted based upon our Covenant Union with Christ.
PS. for anyone to suggest our works are the basis of justification is a total falsehood. Saved by works suggested Rahab was saved by her work of saving the spies, what about her works as a Harlot??? Did they save her???
Or was her salvation only due to the Active obedience of Jesus?
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I challenge you to show me from scripture that it says that. The fact is scripture plainly refutes that:
24 Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith. Ja 2
This refutes it:
...the righteous judgment of God; who will render to every man according to his works: to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life: Ro 2:5-7
You're a hopeless robot Icon. If the Church tells you something that's the way it is. The ultimate authority of the Church is a return to the errors of the RCC from centuries ago.
9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Ecc 1
Sure I have. Both in this thread and many other threads. You are falling on your own bias and crutch, then claiming that others have not supplied you with scripture. That's all on you.
Sorry my friend, The only work that saves is the work Of Jesus. Apart from saving Union by God given faith a person is lost.
Your works do not place you In Union with Christ.
You can offer the work of Cain if you want, I will trust in the work of Jesus alone, by God given faith alone
Gal2:!6
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law
, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ,
and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
All reformed persons go with this..
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