Justified By Works

[AustinC]

Wow. MB! Spot on! My thoughts exactly! Maybe we can get some of these other Reformed robots like @AustinC, @Iconoclast, @Reformed, @Reformed1689, to explain it.

This is a perfect example of your ignorance of cause and effect.
God saves by grace (cause) through faith ( effect). This has been shown, ad nauseam, via scripture and yet this simple truth escapes you.

 

[AustinC]

Glory hallelujah! You've dropped that unscriptural notion of justification by faith alone.

Do you grasp the fact that it is totally, 100%, God doing the work? As with sbw, you miss the forest.

 

[37818]

I've resolved apparent difficulties years ago.

Do you consider yourself as a doer of the law? Are you justified? Is God going to render to you according to your works, eternal life?

No one earns eternal life according to one's works. Romans 6:23.

 

[Yeshua1]

So where did I say I believe Paul Justifies.

Paul was an apostle not Jesus Christ. To be blunt Paul does not save. I have great respect for Paul as an apostle yet still he had no power to save. He was just a preacher.
MB

I was speaking of Pauline Justification theology, you know, the stuff that caused the reformation?

 

[Yeshua1]

Glory hallelujah! You've dropped that unscriptural notion of justification by faith alone.

Faith alone in the finished work and person of Lord Jesus saves!

 

[Yeshua1]

it MUST because it is a VERY IMPORTANT Doctrine! Sure there would be ONE VERSE that teaches this? Or is Reformed teaching on CONJECTURE???

Do you hold to Catholic Justification then, mixture of grace and our good works?

 

[Yeshua1]

looking for that God-breathed VERSE???

The just shall live by faith, from faith to faith!

 

[Yeshua1]

James 2:24, "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone"

The nearest you can get!

Justified before men, not meaning before God!

 

[Yeshua1]

If you don't hold to the unscriptural notion of justification by faith alone there is no difficulty.

So Jesus and all of the Apostles were wrong?

 

[Yeshua1]

that single verse that says "Justification by faith ALONE" is NOT God breathed!!! Becaused it is NOT in the Bible

Neither is trinity the term, but is doctrine!

 

[canadyjd]

Instead of pitting scripture against scripture…..

While you're at it harmonize these:

13 …the doers of the law shall be justified...Ro 2

20 ...by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified... Ro 3

How do you harmonize the verses?

peace to you

 

[SavedByGrace]

Do you hold to Catholic Justification then, mixture of grace and our good works?

Romans 11:6

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes, they add merit and law to salvation as synergists.

Which to Paul means holding to another Gospel!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Justified before men, not meaning before God!

says you...

 

[canadyjd]

is this to myself? The answer is 100% YES!

How can you believe we are justified by the blood of Jesus “100%”, and still argue we are justified by our works? At most, you must believe the blood of Jesus justifies 99%, and our works do the rest.

peace to you

 

[Yeshua1]

Romans 11:6

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work

What does scripture say concerning Abraham? was he justified by grace alone, or was he justified in sight of Giod by his circumcision?

 

[SavedByGrace]

How can you believe we are justified by the blood of Jesus “100%”, and still argue we are justified by our works? At most, you must believe the blood of Jesus justifies 99%, and our works do the rest.

peace to you

My personal understanding is in # 132. I have presented in the OP and another thread, passages from the Bible that do show, that somehow, "works" are taken into account by the Lord, but I do not believe as "meritorious"

 

[SavedByGrace]

What does scripture say concerning Abraham? was he justified by grace alone, or was he justified in sight of Giod by his circumcision?

I am going to create another thread what I believe to be the Bible's teaching on Justification, and it is not by "faith ALONE", which is very much unbiblical!

 

[tyndale1946]

I am going to create another thread what I believe to be the Bible's teaching on Justification, and it is not by "faith ALONE", which is very much unbiblical!

My justification is not by my faith I can tell you that but you don't need to listen to me but by the Faith of the Son Of God Jesus Christ... Brother Glen

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

[37818]

as usual you don't know what you are on about!

LOL. Wow. You must be an ad hominem expert of some kind.