KJVO and the Strongs Concordance

[Truther]

Incorrect. The copyright on the KJV did not and has not kept publishers from changing it. The English text of the 1611 edition had many changes made to it through the years. The king's printers changed it, Cambridge University Press changed it, Oxford University Press changed it, and other publishers have changed it.

Cambridge University Press in 2011 was printing six varying editions of the KJV. Those six editions were not every word the same. They had changes or differences in them.

The KJV copyright can only be enforced in the British Isles.

A teeny place.

 

[Truther]

Not really, consistently, and truly. You do not show that you are a believer in the pure word of God before 1611. The pure word of God existed before 1611, but you cannot identify where it was. Your claimed pure word of God did not endure before 1611. You try to claim that the 1611 edition of the KJV with its proven errors was "the pure word of God" when its errors are not pure.

Your non-scriptural KJV-only opinions would contradict the Scripture as you attempt to bind the word of God to the textual criticism decisions, Bible revision decisions, and translation decisions of one exclusive group of critics in 1611.

The word of God had been translated into English many years before 1611, but you do not consider the pre-1611 word of God translated into English to be the pure word of God.

Where is the pure word of God located?

 

[Truther]

What was he speaking thru before the Kjv?

Greek manuscripts.

Now, nobody can understand those ancient manuscripts accurately as ancient men could.

 

[Truther]

Actually more speak some form of Chinese today, so are you studying from the Chinese Kjv now then?

There is no Chinese KJV.

The English KJV is the plumbline used in the Chinese translation.

 

[Reformed1689]

The KJV copyright can only be enforced in the British Isles.

A teeny place.

I've already shown this to be false.

 

[Reformed1689]

Now, nobody can understand those ancient manuscripts accurately as ancient men could.

Based on what? And the KJV translators were not "ancient ment"

 

[Truther]

This is not true.

"Rights in the Authorized (King James) Version of the Bible are vested in the Crown" "Rights in the Authorized (King James) Version of the Bible are administered in the United Kingdom by the Crown's patentee, Cambridge University Press. Applications for permission for liturgical or non-commercial educational use up to a maximum of 500 verses (or less than a full book) not required. Other uses subject to written permission being obtained from the Permissions Department, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge CB2 8RU (www.cambridge.org)"

And we have an agreement to honor UK copyright. Circular 38A International Copyright Relations of the United States

So no, you cannot do that legally.

Nope, only in the UK.

 

[Reformed1689]

Nope, only in the UK.

So you ignored the links I posted and keep on with your brainwashed hogwash. You are willfully ignorant sir.

 

[Truther]

You still have not defined what "God's Pure Word" actually means. You also have not said why the 1611 actually fits that criteria and based on what biblical principle.

I told you why.

Election process, which you don't agree.

Ancient men with ancient Greek.

 

[Truther]

Based on what? And the KJV translators were not "ancient ment"

400 years ago, it was easier to understand ancient Greek for an ancient English translation.

Not now.

 

[Truther]

So you ignored the links I posted and keep on with your brainwashed hogwash. You are willfully ignorant sir.

Is the KJV Bible copyrighted?

 

[Truther]

Where are you publishing? In the US, the KJV is in public domain and there are no restrictions. But in the UK, the translation is owned by the crown and published by Cambridge, and there are restrictions and notification rules similar to those for other translations.

For most books, you do not have to seek special permission anyway unless the Bible is very heavily quoted; you are only required to give notice on the copyright page that you are using that translation. Typically, for example, you'll be allowed to have up to 25% of your book be Bible quotes as long as you don't exceed 500 verses (some copyright holders are even more generous, and a few are less generous). Check the version you plan to use; the limits and the wording for your copyright page are usually printed on their copyright page. For the KJV in the UK, the limits are no more than 25% of the book, not to exceed 500 verses.

Finally, I would suggest that even if you hope to publish in the US using the KJV, so that no restrictions apply, you still note on the copyright page that you are using the KJV. Some readers might like to know, and it is a customary courtesy to acknowledge any borrowed material.

 

[Reformed1689]

I told you why.

Election process, which you don't agree.

Ancient men with ancient Greek.

First of all, it wasn't ancient men, and the Manuscript they relied on was less than 100 years old. Second, who selected THOSE men for the election process you hold to? What made THEM special?

 

[Reformed1689]

Is the KJV Bible copyrighted?

So you take an internet forum over the US Copyright Office? Ok, that says all we need to know.

 

[Reformed1689]

Where are you publishing? In the US, the KJV is in public domain and there are no restrictions. But in the UK, the translation is owned by the crown and published by Cambridge, and there are restrictions and notification rules similar to those for other translations.

For most books, you do not have to seek special permission anyway unless the Bible is very heavily quoted; you are only required to give notice on the copyright page that you are using that translation. Typically, for example, you'll be allowed to have up to 25% of your book be Bible quotes as long as you don't exceed 500 verses (some copyright holders are even more generous, and a few are less generous). Check the version you plan to use; the limits and the wording for your copyright page are usually printed on their copyright page. For the KJV in the UK, the limits are no more than 25% of the book, not to exceed 500 verses.

Finally, I would suggest that even if you hope to publish in the US using the KJV, so that no restrictions apply, you still note on the copyright page that you are using the KJV. Some readers might like to know, and it is a customary courtesy to acknowledge any borrowed material.

Public Domain in the US cannot apply to a foreign work if it is under copyright. We don't just get to decide, oh that is no longer copyrighted and we have treaties with England to honor their copyrights.

 

[Truther]

First of all, it wasn't ancient men, and the Manuscript they relied on was less than 100 years old. Second, who selected THOSE men for the election process you hold to? What made THEM special?

God set it up for the last days.

God can do that.

God is not still waiting on Christendom to get it together to make a perfect Bible, as y'all hope happens.

 

[Reformed1689]

400 years ago, it was easier to understand ancient Greek for an ancient English translation.

Not now.

Based on what? Says who?

 

[Reformed1689]

God set it up for the last days.

God can do that.

God is not still waiting on Christendom to get it together to make a perfect Bible, as y'all hope happens.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Truther]

So you take an internet forum over the US Copyright Office? Ok, that says all we need to know.

Public Domain in the US cannot apply to a foreign work if it is under copyright. We don't just get to decide, oh that is no longer copyrighted and we have treaties with England to honor their copyrights.

Tell that to all the KJV manufacturers that create copies without permission.

Get an attorney with modern translation copies.

 

[Truther]

You didn't answer the question.

The best answer is that the perfect(pure)word of God is not hidden in a monastery somewhere waiting for Indiana Jones to find it.

It is out there under your nose.

Has been for 400 years in English.