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Lebron James black athlete says target officer who killed 15yr old with knife stabbing another girl

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SavedByGrace

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yes but how does this have anything to do with whether it was wrong for someone to to shoot someone attempting to stab someone else? nothing.

you guys just don't get it? I know of NO other nation on God's earth, where there is so much freedom to have a gun, or, where the police kill more people. Don't mention countries like Brazil, as they are not the same
 

Scott Downey

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you guys just don't get it? I know of NO other nation on God's earth, where there is so much freedom to have a gun, or, where the police kill more people. Don't mention countries like Brazil, as they are not the same
Getting the 'last word' in does not mean you win this discussion...
Your link of the english cop getting stabbed, and the criminal living, what a trade off, you sound approving. What if the english cop had been killed instead, nothijng will change your mind.
 

Mikey

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you guys just don't get it? I know of NO other nation on God's earth, where there is so much freedom to have a gun, or, where the police kill more people. Don't mention countries like Brazil, as they are not the same

again you're changing the argument. you were argueing that it was wrong for a police office to shoot someone who attempted to stab someone else (attempting murder). this is nonsense.

It is a different discussion as to what rules there should be governing access to firearms and what the rules of engagement are (when it is permissible to shoot and when it is not). That is a different discussion.
 

SavedByGrace

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Getting the 'last word' in does not mean you win this discussion...
Your link of the english cop getting stabbed, and the criminal living, what a trade off, you sound approving. What if the english cop had been killed instead, nothijng will change your mind.

my point is that there ARE other ways to deal with these situations, rather than shoot to kill
 

just-want-peace

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Just saw a quip on FB that said: "You can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make him think.":Rolleyes:Rolleyes
This thread more than proves this modification to the old saying: "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!"
(Stuck this in for those few who may have no idea of the play-on-words here!!)
 

SavedByGrace

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Just saw a quip on FB that said: "You can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make him think.":Rolleyes:Rolleyes
This thread more than proves this modification to the old saying: "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!"
(Stuck this in for those few who may have no idea of the play-on-words here!!)

yeah, a bit like some on here who simply won't accept John 3:16, for what it really is! :eek:
 

canadyjd

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you guys just don't get it? I know of NO other nation on God's earth, where there is so much freedom to have a gun, or, where the police kill more people. Don't mention countries like Brazil, as they are not the same
You don’t hear about state sponsored mass murder in China? The Russian communist killed 30 million of their own people. North Korea? How about Rwanda? Brazil isn’t a country? Mexico drug cartels?

You are ignorant. When you are ignorant, you continuously prove it by speaking on those issues where you are ignorant.

peace to you
 

Yeshua1

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You don’t hear about state sponsored mass murder in China? The Russian communist killed 30 million of their own people. North Korea? How about Rwanda? Brazil isn’t a country? Mexico drug cartels?

You are ignorant. When you are ignorant, you continuously prove it by speaking on those issues where you are ignorant.

peace to you
Who kills more. white cops gunning down Black Americans, or blacks killing fellow blacks in Chicago on an annual basis?
 

SavedByGrace

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You don’t hear about state sponsored mass murder in China? The Russian communist killed 30 million of their own people. North Korea? How about Rwanda? Brazil isn’t a country? Mexico drug cartels?

You are ignorant. When you are ignorant, you continuously prove it by speaking on those issues where you are ignorant.

peace to you

you mean like I was "ignorant" about Trump, losing the elections? Yeah! :rolleyes:
 

Scott Downey

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the US is more guns as a way of life as it is written in your Constitution, which we do not have here in the UK. More guns mean more deaths, this is very simple to understand
Since you reject the scripture, there is no reasoning with you, " Romans 13 ". authorizes deadly force, those who resist authority defy God's ordinance.
Criminals do not willingly submit to the governing authorities, and you join in with them also in objection.

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.
 

canadyjd

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WHAT other option did this police officer use?
He was called to a scene of a woman threatening people with a knife.

Within SECONDS of arriving, a woman with a knife was attacking another with the knife and was trying to stab her.

Had he not acted, the girl in pink would certainly have been stabbed and maybe killed.

He acted according to his training. The situation justified deadly force. He had no other option.

He saved that girls life.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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They are trained to shoot to put someone down as quickly as possible!

I am confident there isn’t a law enforcement use of force class in this nation that uses that language.

They are not trained to “put someone down as soon as possible” They are trained to use only the amount of force necessary to stop the threat, use lethal force as a last resort, and de-escalate as soon as the threat is removed.

peace to you
 
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