Aaron's a troll...the things he says should be taken in that light.You did say, don't hold back.And Aaron didn't I guess.
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Let's suppose Calvinism is true...then why don't all Christians believe it?
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Those are all immutable truths...calvinism is not immutable truth, it is a view on how that immutable truth is arrived at. Apples and oranges.
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Let's suppose Calvinism is true. Why do many believers in Christ not affirm the Calvinistic soteriology? Great people of God like John Wesley, CS Lewis, Mother Teresa and many others rejected Calvinistic teaching and I'm asking why that is. If God's regeneration can irresistibly bring an individual to belief in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, then why does it often fall short in bringing them all to a consistent understanding of how God saves?
In other words, why do some believers in Christ affirm Calvinistic doctrine while other do not? In my estimation there can only be three possible answers assuming that the Calvinistic dogma is true:
1. Calvinists are just smarter, wiser, more educated, or something which may give them cause to boast.
2. God elected some of the elect to be Calvinistic while passing by all the rest of us "lessor children of God.
3. God does irresistibly draw all true believers and those who reject Calvinism are not real Christians.
Which answer is correct and why?
I guess I will respond to this thread kinda late. In order to suppose that Calvinism is true then one would have to believe in only part of the Bible that they can twist and massage. If one believes the whole Bible, they will see there are many faulty beliefs in Calvinist beliefs.
That, being said, renders the rest of the question null and void.
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Mt 7:3
==Speaking of "diversion techniques", why is it that you are not answer my reply (or the replies of others) in this thread? I have gone through the entire thread and have noticed that you have only replied, in a very brief way, to one or two people. Was your post a direct attack against one or two individuals and that is why you are not offering any meaningful interaction? Or are you just one of those posters that sets a fire and then runs and hides to watch the action? Just curious.
Exactly...hence the reason for my usage.
Do any other Cal's agree with this assessment?
No. Not all of these are true.
One who does not believe in the deity of Christ is most definitely NOT a Christian. Nor one who denies the virgin birth. To deny just these truths is to deny that Jesus is God, which a Christian cannot do.
1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
OldRegular
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Well said Amy.G. Obviously predestined by God!:love2:
No matter what Aaron says, I am a Christian.
Heheh, Amy, after 7000 posts I'd have to think your skin is thicker than what you're lettin' on....
Heheh, Amy, after 7000 posts I'd have to think your skin is thicker than what you're lettin' on....
Yea, I'm a pretty tough old bird! :laugh:
saturneptune
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I believe in doctines of God's sovereignty and grace, and no, I do not agree with his assessment. From interacting with you, and reading your posts for several years, I believe you to be a solid Christian, and quite gracious towards people.
The examples on BOTH sides of this question in this thread of treating other posters is outrageous and everyone of them ought to hang their heads in shame.
Why does this debate, which has been going on lots longer than anyone here has been around, evoke such a lack of respect?
There are two on the free-will side of recent arrival that are especially guilty of this. If everyone would read Amy's post, and DHK and Old Regular's posts, one could see how to exchange ideas in a sane and respectful manner.
It is everyone's responsibility to show respect. Thanks to DHK and others, about two months ago, I had to stop posting on threads about Catholics, because I was having my buttons pushed, and got angier each time without even realizing it.
The presupposition of this thread is that Calvinism is true. If it's true, my postulation is the only possible explanation for your non-acceptance of it. There was no vitriol whatever. It was a completely objective answer to the evidence that you presented.No matter what Aaron says, I am a Christian.
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OldRegular
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No matter what Aaron says, I am a Christian.
Bless your pea-pikin heart Amy I would never question your salvation.
Pea-pikin? They pick cotton in Tennessee, not peas!
No cotton where I live. To cool for cotton, but I do pick peas, beans, corn, okra, tomatoes, peppers, blueberries and other assorted fruits and veggies. :tongue3: The freezer is full!
Thanks OldRegular! :thumbsup: I do so love the LORD!
OldRegular
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Ernie Ford was from Tennessee and he said pea-pikin heart. That is good enough for me!
OldRegular
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I know you do Amy.G and so do I.
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