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Libertarianism is Pro-Life

Reynolds

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While I believe the government's stand on the issue is reflective of the nation as a whole, I do not care what the government does about marriage. I do not want to see people mistreated for their gender identity.
Did God "mistreat" queers in the O.T.?
 

Adonia

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While I believe the government's stand on the issue is reflective of the nation as a whole, I do not care what the government does about marriage. I do not want to see people mistreated for their gender identity.

Here again, the government should not be doing anything about marriage. It is mentioned nowhere in the Federal compact so therefore the Federal government has no business weighing in on it one way or the other - it is an issue that can only be addressed by the individual states.
 

HankD

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Like someone said before, the only way out of the abortion mess is a Federal Constitutional Amendment outlawing the procedure entirely.
Yes, I agree, however it is already outlawed via the promise of LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS.
But ignored.
 

JonC

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Here again, the government should not be doing anything about marriage. It is mentioned nowhere in the Federal compact so therefore the Federal government has no business weighing in on it one way or the other - it is an issue that can only be addressed by the individual states.
I do not consider a secular marriage license as the basis for marriage.

So there are two distinct issues - one is marriage which is independent of government meddling. The other is secular rights recognized by a secular government.

The government can define marriage as between a cow and a chicken - but it does not make it so. It only shows a distinction between the World and the Kingdom.
 

JonC

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Which ones?
I know several Democrats who are opposed to abortion. The issue is that they support abortion because of their vote. They are Democtat for other issues.

I cannot see an issue in this (or recent) elections greater than abortion. Nothing - no political agenda - is worth supporting the murder of millions of children.

But there are Democrats who believe the party's propaganda. There are those who vote out of tradition. And there are those who place the lives of children as a low priority- perhaps choosing to look away (like when people choose not to see the homeless on a street corner).
 

JonC

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Here again, the government should not be doing anything about marriage. It is mentioned nowhere in the Federal compact so therefore the Federal government has no business weighing in on it one way or the other - it is an issue that can only be addressed by the individual states.
Another issue is tgat the states have sold out to the federal government. They have become dependent on federal dollars to the extent they have given away much of their independence.
 

JonC

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Did God "mistreat" queers in the O.T.?
I do not see a parallel between secular government and God. In fact, if I were to compair our government to a biblical ruling power, I do not think God would be my choice.
 

KenH

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Well praise God for them. They get very little press though, this is the first I have heard of them.

‘ “In Louisiana ... a majority of Democrats in the legislature are pro-life. We refer to ourselves as whole-life Democrats. It's not difficult for us. It's our Christian value, our sincerely held belief that abortion is wrong, so we fight for it, but we are different in how we approach the issue," she said in an appearance on "The Story with Martha MacCallum" on Monday. ‘

Louisiana state Democrat: Abortion is 'modern-day genocide'
 

JonC

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Well praise God for them. They get very little press though, this is the first I have heard of them.
The problem with them is that they too often say one thing with their voice and another with their vote.

They are anti-abortion but they are still supporting a political party that fights for the right of individuals to be able to choose to kill these children.
 

Reynolds

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I do not see a parallel between secular government and God. In fact, if I were to compair our government to a biblical ruling power, I do not think God would be my choice.
Did the Government set up by God under Moses "mistreat" queers?
 

JonC

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No

. I asked a simple question.

USA is not a theocracy but that has nothing to do with my question.
It has everything to do with your question.

Was God mistreating adulterers by commanding Israel stone them? No. Does this somehow mean that our government should stone them?

The answer is that it would be mistreating people to kill them for their gender sins.
 
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just-want-peace

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By investing in Budweiser you would be helping to produce the means of providing alcoholic beverages that you would oppose. The government staying out of the abortion issue does not help produce the means for abortion to take place. In fact, abortion could be totally legal and not a single abortion has to take place. Broadly speaking, I really wish we would get past the point in our politics where people of various political persuasions would stop wanting to use government force to ban what they don’t like and to subsidize what they do like.

Well said!!!!! I have to plead guilty to this from time to time, but calm consideration tells me to “WAKE UP” and realize that such action usually can & does backfire.
The dims “collusion investigation” is one classic example of this!:rolleyes:
 

Reynolds

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It has everything to do with your question.

Was God mistreating adulterers by commanding Israel stone them? No. Does this somehow mean that our government should stone them?

The answer is that it would be mistreating people to kill them for their gender sins.
So, it seems you think Mosaic law mistreated people? You say it didn't, but then you say if we did it today it would be mistreating. I think homosexuality should still be a crime. It would suit me if fornication and adultery were still crimes. It would definitely not hurt my feelings one bit if they were all capital crimes.
 

HankD

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So, it seems you think Mosaic law mistreated people? You say it didn't, but then you say if we did it today it would be mistreating. I think homosexuality should still be a crime. It would suit me if fornication and adultery were still crimes. It would definitely not hurt my feelings one bit if they were all capital crimes.
Hard Core man.
 
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