Lordship Salvation?

A ruler questioned Him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said to him, "
"Believe. Aorist. Punctiliar action. An event. Mental assent.
But, he that believes "Should not perish" and is subjunctive. It might or might not happen.
However, the semantic domain of the adjective cannot exceed the semantic domain of the noun from which it is formed. Therefore you are saved for 1000 years."

 

You're good at this. I think I'll bow out and just watch you.

 

Lacy Evans:

Read it and weep.

Amy: (in reference to John 3:16

JJump:

 

You can't leave. I might need that decoder ring.

 

Amy you can't even get the context of what Lacy is saying.

Here's what Lacy said: Not one person on this thread has ever said that "eternal" means "1000 years."

He is talking about definition of the word.

But here is your question: What is the definition of "age lasting" that Christ is offering?

Your question has to do with not the meaning of the word in general, but is specific to what is being talked about in this passage.

No wonder you struggle so much. Aionios does not always means 1,000 years. However it DOES in the CONTEXT of your question.

Man this really shouldn't be this difficult.

 

You just said it again! In this context (John 3:16) Eternal (ainios) means 1000 years. Therefore, someone DID say eternal means 1000 years and that someone was YOU.

 

It just means a long time. A long time in that context happens to be a thousand years. The definition of the word is not a thousand years.

 

Self-righteous (there's a better word, but I won't use it)
KJV-predominant or KJVO
Works-based kingdom salvation

Coincidence? You decide.

 

I think they just want to find fault with everything that is said.

 

I signed up for eternal life. If I find out that Jesus really meant "life for a long time", I'm going to sue someone.

 

I thought you were one of those that thought you were signed up by God not the other way around.

 

Amen to that.

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have a long life."

Unbelieveable.

 

Here's a nickel. Go buy a sense of humor.

 

It is amazing how each thread results in jabs to the sovreignty of God regardless of the original subject.

 

Come on that was funny. I'm a clownfish! I know funny! (Sorry my two year old just got back from Finding Nemo Anonymous)

 

I'm not sure where you got this info, but it's incorrect.

It is found in only two places, but Romans 2:7 has aionios.

It is found in Romans 1:20 and Jude 1:6.

 

I guess since I don't have "your" sense of humor I don't have one at all. Sorry my mistake. :laugh:

 

Just make sure you don't ever stop believing because once you do you too will perish. So I guess eternal salvation isn't secure after all. I guess I'll have to cut out some of the other Scripture that says it is.

 

Work at it. You'll get one in an eternity. Or about 1,000 years, whichever comes first.

 

I would say that Accountable is KJV preferred, as I am, but falls also into the latter category.

However, my point is that context and grammar never contradict.

That's why I never advocate only looking at the grammar. That's also why I point out the contradictions created when a person holds to the "age is really forever" view. That's also why I, a journalism major originally, with a heavy emphasis on English grammar and composition, look to English etymological sources for the etymological history of a word. I look to those who study the English language for English definitions and history, and not the BDAG or Strong's or Vine's or Joe Bloe's Baptist Bible Definitions.

Grammar plus context.

I have rarely found a Kingdom preaching church outside the Baptist persuasion (except for a few who dropped "Baptist" from their name as the Baptists in general abandoned these teachings). Most of them are KJVO or KJV Preferred. Many, if not most of them teach entirely from context.

The two complement each other quite well.

Grammar plus context.

Or, we could stick to ignoring the grammar and stay only with the pretext, as so many have done.

Let me present a statement to you and let's see what it means to you, with no context. I can come up with at least three meanings:

"I want to smoke that faggot."