Martin Luther on Galatians 3:13

[Eternally Grateful]

This is Kenneth Copeland heresy.

And I am supposed to respond to this nonsense how?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Hypostatic Union teaches that Christ, in the incarnation, has two distinct natures, one divine and one human. They never blended, so that Christ was not a deified human or a humanized deity. He never laid aside His deity.

Then how did he die? How did he suffer pain? Why did he have to be taught, Why did he require the HS to perform his miracles?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Then how did he die? How did he suffer pain? Why did he have to be taught, Why did he require the HS to perform his miracles?

Because of being human.

 

[SovereignGrace]

And I am supposed to respond to this nonsense how?

If the shoe fits…

 

[SovereignGrace]

Then how did he die? How did he suffer pain? Why did he have to be taught, Why did he require the HS to perform his miracles?

He was just as much human as God while upon earth. Just because He was God robed in flesh, it did not make him impervious to pain.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Because of being human.

Ahh, So he set something aside...

Thank you

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If the shoe fits…

if the shoe fits?

Again, How am I supposed to answer when you do not even respond to what you disagree with?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He was just as much human as God while upon earth. Just because He was God robed in flesh, it did not make him impervious to pain.

like I said. then he had to set something aside.

Why did you not answer about why the HS had to do his miracles. And why he had to learn?

 

[Campion]

Then how did he die? How did he suffer pain? Why did he have to be taught, Why did he require the HS to perform his miracles?

Because he became man.

"And the word was made flesh..."

 

[Campion]

like I said. then he had to set something aside.

Why did you not answer about why the HS had to do his miracles. And why he had to learn?

Again, God cannot slip out of his divinity like Superman slipping out of his superpowers.

God is unchangeable. If he changed or sinned as you are asserting, then he is not God.


“Which one of you convicts me of sin?” - John 8:46

“For we have not a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” - Hebrews 4:15

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Because he became man.

"And the word was made flesh..."

in order to become man he had to set aside something.

God is omnipotent. He does not need God to perform his miracles, He can not feel pain, As he can not be injured or hurt. And he most certainly can not die.

God is omniscient, He does not need to learn, he knows all things

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Again, God cannot slip out of his divinity like Superman slipping out of his superpowers.

God is unchangeable. If he changed or sinned as you are asserting, then he is not God.

Who said he sinned? Certainly not me.

And the mere fact in a moment of time he went from being the all powerful God to a baby who had to wear diapers and suckle his mothers breasts proves he changed

“Which one of you convicts me of sin?” - John 8:46

“For we have not a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” - Hebrews 4:15

again, where does the Jesus sinned come from? I never made any such accusation. and I take offense to being accused of something I have never done. If you can not listen to someone and understand them. something is wrong

 

[Campion]

in order to become man he had to set aside something.

God is omnipotent. He does not need God to perform his miracles, He can not feel pain, As he can not be injured or hurt. And he most certainly can not die.

God is omniscient, He does not need to learn, he knows all things

If God set aside his divinity, then he is not God. It's as simple as that.

God is unchangeable. If he changes, he is not God. Simple test.

 

[Campion]

Who said he sinned? Certainly not me.

I thought you are arguing that. If not, I apologize.

And the mere fact in a moment of time he went from being the all powerful God to a baby who had to wear diapers and suckle his mothers breasts proves he changed

Ever never ceased to be God when he became man. He took on flesh. "And the word became flesh and dwelt among us."

And yes, that is the paradox of Christianity: The God of creation humbled himself by entering into his creation, coming as a babe.

again, where does the Jesus sinned come from? I never made any such accusation. and I take offense to being accused of something I have never done. If you can not listen to someone and understand them. something is wrong

I apologize. I thought you were arguing Jesus sinned.

 

[JesusFan]

um, yes he did. God can't die. he can't suffer or feel pain. He also has all power. Jesus had to use the power of the HS.

was Jesus fully God while on earth then?

 

[JesusFan]

Again, We have a difference of interpretation.

I do not know what you all call it. But Jesus left his essence, Diety, whatever you want to call it aside.

He did not come omnipresent
He did not come omnipotent.
He did not come with his complete essence

If he did he could not sin, and he could not die.

It sounds like you follow the ole Kenosis heresy!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If God set aside his divinity, then he is not God. It's as simple as that.

That is not true.

God is unchangeable. If he changes, he is not God. Simple test.

So Jesus did not change when he was born of Mary?

 

[Campion]

It sounds like you follow the ole Kenosis heresy!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I thought you are arguing that. If not, I apologize.


Ever never ceased to be God when he became man. He took on flesh. "And the word became flesh and dwelt among us."

And yes, that is the paradox of Christianity: The God of creation humbled himself by entering into his creation, coming as a babe.





I apologize. I thought you were arguing Jesus sinned.

No. My argument was he took on sin. My sin and your sin.

Apology accepted!

 

[JesusFan]

The dirty of God? Are you aware God is perfect in his essence? He cannot become dirty. If he did, then he is not God.

Think he meant Diety!