Men and church

[Amy.G]

If you want to show affection to your cat that is your business, but when you call others a pharisee it gets reported. I won't waste my time reporting it because I don't want to be seen as being so childish

Report away. But don't leave out the word "if" in my post.

I also don't find it distracting to hold my Christian sister or brother's hand while praying. If that makes you uncomfortable, then you shouldn't do it. But you should not judge others for it. That's when you step over the line from Christian liberty to judgmental Pharisee.

 

[tinytim]

NEWBIES!

 

[Aaron]

Grow up and get some guts!

I might say the same to you. It's obvious everything you've said in this thread was merely to gain the aprobation of the women on this board.

 

[paul wassona]

Wow... this thread is sooo funny.. we have "men" afraid that if they hold each other hands in prayer they are not manly~!....

Talk about an inferiority complex!

Come on guys... if you lose your manly feeling by holding a man's hand while praying.. maybe you didn't have it to begin with!

How many here see that the same bunch of men that is afraid of becoming gay if they hold another man's hand is the same bunch that thinks a woman's place is at home, barefoot and pregnant?

I say these men are sissies!... they are not secure enough in their manhood to touch another man's hand.. and at the same time are scared of the women becoming equal to them...

And this time I am not trying to be extreme...

IF You are afraid of women so much you have to "keep them in their place"... and you don't feel like a man while holding another man's hand while praying...

YOU ARE A SISSY!....

lolololololol

Grow up and get some guts!

Who can help anyone who has subjected themselves to the ideals you have?

You make a lot of generalities and without anything to "run with".

You all keep making this a personal thing when it has been explained several times of the compulsary nature behind it.

To make the claims that some of us "are afraid of not being manly" shows your lack in understanding their words

God set the distinctions between men and women. God also set the direct order of men becoming gentlemen and women becoming ladies.

The idea of men holding hands is something new as the former things are passed away and the liberal mindset has altered cognition of those former things.

The immaturity shown in the inability to discuss this speaks to the shame of society.

Then there's the avoiding the truth by inserting a misrepresentation of ones own words,

But you should not judge others for it. That's when you step over the line from Christian liberty to judgmental Pharisee.

No one is judging anyone, yet we are accused of it and then called pharisees.

I have found that to be the immaturity of the debater in an attempt to discredit what some one has said and to impugn charatcer. What is so crazy is the ones making these statements cannot see they are appearing guilty of worse than what they accuse others to be.

I am neither Hithel, nor Phillel, therefore I am NOT a pharisee. It would help some of they studied before opening their mouths.

 

[rbell]

I insinuated no such thing. There is, however, an effeminacy in the church that needs to be addressed. Proper decorum in worship means that gender differences are observed. The compulsory requirement in some churches to join hands or engage in other forms of softness are neither spiritual nor Scriptural.

(When the guy in the pulpit says, "Let's all join hands," then it's compulsory.)

*sigh*

The word for today is "extra-biblical regulations."

 

[paul wassona]

I might say the same to you. It's obvious everything you've said in this thread was merely to gain the aprobation of the women on this board.

I've noticed the same thing and it's hinting towards infidelity.

By experience I have learned that pandering to women will get you places. But I have also learned the women pandered to get real demanding. In the case of my wife I try to be real gentle. There have been times I've stood up to her and told her how things need to be and needed her help, not how she felt it should be. later she saw my being the man I am was that my being guided by the Lord was actually right and THANKED me for putting her in her place!:smilewinkgrin:

My wife is very outgoing, well received and loved by most and loves all. She's plain remarkable. She's not "lorded over" as I already know some one here reading this has already thought. She wouldn't want me to hold other men's hands in a circle of prayer, she said so. Since I am to submit to her in that area I am right and so is she for not doing it.:tongue3:

Now the members of the rainbow coalition can speak..........

 

[rbell]

Sorry, some cannot tell the difference between a bible mandate and a creature preference. Why would any Christian try to suggest what you did is beyond Christian charity in your quote before. The laying on of hands is not the same thing; one is towards the other and from a presbytery to show approval to the one receiving. The other, holding hands, is a joint action from one to another and back. Not quite the same is it?

The other word for today is "extreme logical fallacy."

 

[rbell]

Hey Paul...if I catch you or Aaron holding hands...you both get 5 minutes time-out.

 

[paul wassona]

*sigh*

The word for today is "extra-biblical regulations."

Why would anyone take you serious when you can't distinguish between a box of chocolates and a jar of jalapenos?:smilewinkgrin:

 

[paul wassona]

Hey Paul...if I catch you or Aaron holding hands...you both get 5 minutes time-out.

You know, you might "catch" us shaking hands in Christian fellowship, praying together in an pld fashioned altar, you might even see us giving each other a manly embrace. You will not see us holding hands. You might in your vain imaginations, but not in this world.:tongue3:

 

[Aaron]

You know, you might "catch" us shaking hands in Christian fellowship, praying together in an pld fashioned altar, you might even see us giving each other a manly embrace. You will not see us holding hands. You might in your vain imaginations, but not in this world.:tongue3:

Uhhh, just stay at an arm's length.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Uhhh, just stay at an arm's length.

Are you really like this or do you just put on a hard, outer shell to protect your wounded inner self? Usually, there is a reason why people gravitate towards extreme fundamentalism and extra-biblical legalism.

 

[Mexdeaf]

I feel like I am driving down the highway at the legal speed limit, being tailgated and passed by people driving like blooming idiots, and wondering why the Highway Patrol is never around when I need them.

Anyone else have that feeling or is it just me?

 

[rbell]

Uhhh, just stay at an arm's length.

Give him a hug, PW!!

 

[tinytim]

I've noticed the same thing and it's hinting towards infidelity.

By experience I have learned that pandering to women will get you places. But I have also learned the women pandered to get real demanding. In the case of my wife I try to be real gentle. There have been times I've stood up to her and told her how things need to be and needed her help, not how she felt it should be. later she saw my being the man I am was that my being guided by the Lord was actually right and THANKED me for putting her in her place!:smilewinkgrin:

My wife is very outgoing, well received and loved by most and loves all. She's plain remarkable. She's not "lorded over" as I already know some one here reading this has already thought. She wouldn't want me to hold other men's hands in a circle of prayer, she said so. Since I am to submit to her in that area I am right and so is she for not doing it.:tongue3:

Now the members of the rainbow coalition can speak..........

HOW dare you!!!
Just because I stand up for women against Neanderthals that would rather drag them around than count them equal,

you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO ACCUSE ME OF INFIDELITY!

I DEMAND AN APOLOGY, AND I DEMAND MODERATOR JUDGMENT.

 

[Aaron]

Are you really like this or do you just put on a hard, outer shell to protect your wounded inner self? Usually, there is a reason why people gravitate towards extreme fundamentalism and extra-biblical legalism.

I'm glad you brought this up, because you've illuminated the real issue with the touchy-feely crowd.

Despite all the lip service to the contrary, there really is no liberty afforded by those who want to compel forms of softness in Christian worship. You think that if one is not emotional, or soft and gushy, then there is something wrong. It's just as sag said in an attempt to deprecate those who rightly assert that masculinity should prevail in Christian worship, it's an attempt to force everyone into your own mold.

 

[Aaron]

HOW dare you!!!
Just because I stand up for women against Neanderthals that would rather drag them around than count them equal,

you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO ACCUSE ME OF INFIDELITY!

I DEMAND AN APOLOGY, AND I DEMAND MODERATOR JUDGMENT.

A little sensitive, are we? :laugh:

 

[tinytim]

Let's see someone accuse you of infidelity and see what happens...

and yeah...

Just call me MR. Sensitive!.. (tiny in his best Barry White voice)... lol

 

[Aaron]

Let's see someone accuse you of infidelity and see what happens...

I've been accused of worse. I was accused of being a pedophile, and no moderator intervened, and I didn't scream at the top of my lungs (giant print).

Stop acting like a little sissy. :laugh:

 

[Dr. Bob]

Over the line. :BangHead: