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Military Service?

JonC

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Maybe it is the way they are taught to do things, but I always found it amazing that no one "accidentally" took him out. It says a lot for the type of guys/gals he had under his command.
That's the whole point of military discipline. Shooting the people you are told to shoot, not the one's you want to shoot Laugh.
 

Kevin

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That's the whole point of military discipline. Shooting the people you are told to shoot, not the one's you want to shoot Laugh.

Is that what happened with the guy who shot his CO in the last couple of days in San Antonio.

All it takes is one guy who isn't impressed with the military way. Rules are only good for those who are willing to follow them. Frown
 

JonC

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Is that what happened with the guy who shot his CO in the last couple of days in San Antonio.

All it takes is one guy who isn't impressed with the military way. Rules are only good for those who are willing to follow them. Frown
I always try to remember there's a nut in every bunch. The military is no exception. Unfortunately while nuts and ice cream goes together, nuts and guns don't.
 

carpro

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The Forum title is Vets and Friends. He comes under the later. This isn't a American Legion\VFW meeting. Nobody is asking for a DD\WD\ND 214.

No problem I'm out. I see nothing "friendly" in Kevin's post, just disdain for the retired officers he has come in contact with, wondering openly why someone didn't kill them when they were on active duty. The rest of the anti military trolls will arrive soon.
 

JonC

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No problem I'm out. I see nothing "friendly" in Kevin's post, just disdain for the retired officers he has come in contact with, wondering openly why someone didn't kill them when they were on active duty. The rest of the anti military trolls will arrive soon.
Well....I can see how his post was not meant to be "unfriendly", at least until #23 (there I started seeing a hint towards your point).
 

Squire Robertsson

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I was referring only to the post I quoted. You did not refer to post 23. You made a general statement as to who was allowed to post in this forum.
No problem I'm out. I see nothing "friendly" in Kevin's post, just disdain for the retired officers he has come in contact with, wondering openly why someone didn't kill them when they were on active duty. The rest of the anti military trolls will arrive soon.
 

Kevin

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I am sorry if I offended any Vets here, that was not my intention. In a way I was complimenting the enlisted and junior officers who did put up with this person without harming him. I tell you, that took a lot of self control on their part, and I'm sure he wasn't the only one that was less than a delight to work with.

Part of my clash with him was probably because I was not military, and did not understand his background. It was not made any easier due to the fact that even after being retired (do you guys ever really retire) for 20+ years he expected the respect his rank brought him in the military from friends and family.

I gave him the respect he earned from me, but I came to first know him well after he retired, and when I say retired, that was it for working. He did have a small ranch which he took from overgrown land, to a very nice place to live.

I will also say that he was probably the most intelligent person I have spent any significant time with, which I imagine was a big part of how he started out as a enlisted boot, and ended up in officer training.

I will also apologize for posting in the Vets area. My normal routine when I come to the Board is to just click on the "New Posts" tab, and read what catches my interest. I will start to pay closer attention to the details from now on.
 

TCassidy

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I am sorry if I offended any Vets here
You did not. Well, not the ones that count. :D :D :D

(do you guys ever really retire)
Nope. I had a deacon who was a Navy Command Master Chief (the highest rank an enlisted man can hold). He said to me one day after a deacon's meeting, "Pastor, you never retired. You just changed uniforms!" How right he was. The habit of "command presence" is a very hard habit to break.
I will also apologize for posting in the Vets area.
Don't. The name of this forum is "Vets and Friends." Stick around, Friend. :)
 

Salty

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Yes, Kevin, do stick around - sure we talk a lot of military - some fun, some serious, some "good ole days", but overall, hopefully we can learn from each other.
 

tyndale1946

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You did not. Well, not the ones that count. :D :D :D

Nope. I had a deacon who was a Navy Command Master Chief (the highest rank an enlisted man can hold). He said to me one day after a deacon's meeting, "Pastor, you never retired. You just changed uniforms!" How right he was. The habit of "command presence" is a very hard habit to break.

Don't. The name of this forum is "Vets and Friends." Stick around, Friend. :)

I agree with TC... Stick around Keven and we'll put a uniform on you yetEek... So tell us which do you wannabe join?... We are flexible!... Brother GlenSneaky
 

Brutus

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Just wondering, do any of you use the VA hospitals? If so, how are they in your area?

(I'm wondering as that is where I am this morning for an appointment. It's beautiful outside, but inside is deteriorating. I suppose they simply do not have the resources to keep up the facilities. I've always received good treatment when I've had to come here....which is not often).

Sent from my TARDIS
Sorry to hear of deteriorating conditions. Danville, Illinois VA is always going through updates, to buildings and grounds, as well as building new Green Houses for vets to live in with their own private rooms with own bathrooms and showers. Also in the process of building new housing for homeless vets and their families. The care here is top notch!
 

mjjddh

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I’m sure this has been asked more than once, but the landscape has changed on the BB. I was just wondering how many military (current and former) we have here. What services are represented?
USAF. 1979 to 1986; 6981st Electronic Security Squadron, Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska. Then Alaska Air National Guard 1987 - 1989. SSgt (E-5).
 

Salty

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USAF. 1979 to 1986; 6981st Electronic Security Squadron, Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska. Then Alaska Air National Guard 1987 - 1989. SSgt (E-5).
I was At Ft Rich when you were at Elmerdorf
 

Darrell C

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USAF. 1979 to 1986; 6981st Electronic Security Squadron, Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska. Then Alaska Air National Guard 1987 - 1989. SSgt (E-5).

I was at Elmendorf AFB roughly 76/77-78 as a kid, I think it was. I know we were there the year Elvis died. I think it was 78 that it got to about 100 degrees there that summer. My step dad was the one in the AF.

I remember getting off the plane at the airport, and seeing the stuffed animals, and thinking "What kind of place have they brought me to.!" It was true for us in winter that we walked to school in the snow, in the dark, uphill...both ways.

I think it was Eilson (Fairbanks) we were at before going to Anchorage.

Anyway, just thought it interesting we were there in the same place in the world so close in time.


God bless.
 

mjjddh

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I was at Elmendorf AFB roughly 76/77-78 as a kid, I think it was. I know we were there the year Elvis died. I think it was 78 that it got to about 100 degrees there that summer. My step dad was the one in the AF.

I remember getting off the plane at the airport, and seeing the stuffed animals, and thinking "What kind of place have they brought me to.!" It was true for us in winter that we walked to school in the snow, in the dark, uphill...both ways.

I think it was Eilson (Fairbanks) we were at before going to Anchorage.

Anyway, just thought it interesting we were there in the same place in the world so close in time.


God bless.
I arrived in January of 1980 with my combat boots over my shoulder and my cookie monster under my arm. LOL. I was 19 years old. It was dark with more snow that I had ever seen in my life. When I stepped outside of the airport, Alaska smelled different -- wild and I fell in love with it. We lived there for 10 years before leaving. I was originally from the South and a huge family. I wanted my kids to grow up with the love of extended family members as I had, so it was time to come to the lower 48. We still miss Alaska.

It was nice hearing your memory. God bless you and thank you for sharing!
 
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