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Dave G

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When did the Anti Christ go in the temple and proclaim to be God, and require all to take the Mark of the Beast?
I've never heard or read of anyone that's ever done that.
The mandate to take a physical mark, either in the forehead or in the right hand, for untold millions has never happened yet.
 

Alofa Atu

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That reign is not in heaven as Yahweh is there, reigning over it.
Consider please:

Mat_28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​

What does "power" mean? It means "authority" (see: Mat_7:29, Mat_8:9, Mat_21:23-24 (3), Mat_21:27, Mar_1:22, Mar_11:27-29 (4), Mar_13:33-34 (2), Luk_4:36, Luk_7:8, Luk_9:1, Luk_19:17, Luk_20:2 (2), Luk_20:8, Luk_20:20, Joh_5:27, Act_9:14, Act_26:10, Act_26:12, 1Co_15:24, 2Co_10:8, Rev_13:2).

The word says:

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
Eph 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,​

Jesus presently rules from the throne of Grace:

Heb_4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.​
 

Iconoclast

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All nations coming up to worship God of Israel!

So y1,roby,sma,

You are looking for;
Levitical priests?
new moons?
sabbaths?
Feast of tabernacles?

21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord.

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
 

Iconoclast

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all nations worship Yahweh? Do the Muslims nations do that now?


There are Christians all around the globe now, still much work to go..There are Christians in Muslim nations now.
And Jesus does not have to beat them with re-bar.
 

robycop3

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Consider please:

Mat_28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​

What does "power" mean? It means "authority" (see: Mat_7:29, Mat_8:9, Mat_21:23-24 (3), Mat_21:27, Mar_1:22, Mar_11:27-29 (4), Mar_13:33-34 (2), Luk_4:36, Luk_7:8, Luk_9:1, Luk_19:17, Luk_20:2 (2), Luk_20:8, Luk_20:20, Joh_5:27, Act_9:14, Act_26:10, Act_26:12, 1Co_15:24, 2Co_10:8, Rev_13:2).

The word says:

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
Eph 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,​

Jesus presently rules from the throne of Grace:

Heb_4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.​
So, if He's RULING, & not just OBSERVING, why is sin so prevalent?

And I agree that, after the millenium, Jesus shall step aside for His Father Yahweh. An earthly model is herod. While those under his rule called him "King", he was subject to Caesar. And while Jesus reigns on earth, He will still be subject to Yahweh. But there's a chain of command. We will answer to Jesus, who will be our Ruler in all things. Remember, He is the intermediary between us & Yahweh.
 

Yeshua1

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There are Christians all around the globe now, still much work to go..There are Christians in Muslim nations now.
And Jesus does not have to beat them with re-bar.
Messianic Age shall have NO other gods and religions being practiced period on earth!
 

agedman

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There is a great difference in the times of lamb slaughter that is going on now as believers are persecuted and that time in which believers shall “rule and reign with Him.”

There is a vast difference between believers seeing and perceiving as “if through a darkened glass” and that time in which believers shall “know” without the lack of hindered discernment.

Such are just a couple of evidences to trust as factual the timeline of the Revelation 19 and to the end.
 

Yeshua1

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So, if He's RULING, & not just OBSERVING, why is sin so prevalent?

And I agree that, after the millenium, Jesus shall step aside for His Father Yahweh. An earthly model is herod. While those under his rule called him "King", he was subject to Caesar. And while Jesus reigns on earth, He will still be subject to Yahweh. But there's a chain of command. We will answer to Jesus, who will be our Ruler in all things. Remember, He is the intermediary between us & Yahweh.
During His Messianic reign, sin will be put down right then and there!
 

percho

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Hey robycop 3. Can you show me from the verses you cited where it says that the reign for 1,000 years is on the earth? I do not read that there.

I do not deny the 1,000 years reign, only the location I differ with (it's gonna be in Heaven; 3rd).

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them, and the souls of those who have been beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus, and because of the word of God, and who did not bow before the beast, nor his image, and did not receive the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand, and they did live (were made alive) and reign with Christ the thousand years; and the rest of the dead did not live again till the thousand years may be finished; this is the first rising again. Happy and holy is he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:4-6 YLT

1 Cor 15:22 YLT for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive,

Now, when is this, that they did live, are made alive to reign with Christ? - 1 Cor 15:23 and each in his proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ's, (those spoken of in Rev 20:4-6 who had the testimony of Jesus) in his presence,

Where? Where does it say on Rev 5:10 YLT and didst make us to our God kings and priests, and we shall reign upon the earth.'

That is the stone and kingdom on the earth of Daniel 2:44,45 see Verse 39 for earthly location
'And in the days of these kings raise up doth the God of the heavens a kingdom that is not destroyed -- to the age, and its kingdom to another people is not left: it beateth small and endeth all these kingdoms, and it standeth to the age. Because that thou hast seen that out of the mountain cut hath been a stone without hands, and it hath beaten small the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king that which is to be after this; and the dream is true, and its interpretation stedfast. Rev 20:6 but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1 Cor 15:24 then -- the end,

so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, and each in his proper order,

The end of what?

Verse 26 the last enemy is done away -- death;



Question? How many write their own name on the book of life?
 

robycop3

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What about people in the rainforest?
How will they know what Idolatry is?
There are missionaries trying to find every people on earth. But in some cases, govts. have made decisions to not permit preaching the Gospel to some peoples, such as the Fore people of Papua, New Guinea. Those people remained untouched during WW2. The govt. has decided that no missionaries nor outsiders are allowed to visit the Fore, in order to preserve the purity of their culture. Then, there's that island off a coast of India, whose people don't allow any outsiders at all. A couple of years ago, they killed a missionary who sneaked onto the island. The govt. of India has the surrounding waters patrolled to keep anyone from landing on the island.

But GOD will cause the Gospel to be preached to those people in His time, as well as others who may not now be known to the rest of the world. God created them, same as He did us. All in His good time!
 
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