Mitt Romney and the Platform his Presidential Nomination Gives Mormonism to Expand

[12strings]

I truly believe this is our line in the sand moment where the Body needs to take a stand and totally reject the world's options being forced upon us.

Question, If you found yourself living in a small town in Utah where the majority of people were muslim, and there were two muslims running for county recorder...would you...
a. Not vote?
b. Not vote, and consider any Christian who did vote for either candidate to be in sin, even though the county needs a recorder to keep records?
c. Vote for whichever one of them you thought would do the best job, because the county needs a recorder?

It blows my mind that so many are okay with enlarging the platform for these falsehoods to be highlighted if even by default.

By not voting for either candidate, are you not yourself allowing one of their platforms to enlarge...by default, as it were?

 

[Arbo]

Zaac's posting technique is typically a lot of hyperbole mixed with innuendo. In the interest of public service, I hereby offer a translation of the posts made by Zaac in this thread.




Zaac: "I'm an equal opportunity troll."




Zaac: "This board is rife with spiritual blindness, the majority of the spiritually blind are Romney supporters."





Zaac: "RevMitchell gets his wisdom from the devil."




Zaac: "LadyEagle has made electing Romney into an idol."




Zaac: "Most of the people on BB have wicked hearts."




Zaac: "Romney has so mesmerized LadyEagle that she now bears false witness."





Zaac: "Arbo is a liar."

Really, I don't understand how LadyEagle, in her role as moderator, lets this guy continue to post. He basically insults people and calls into question their witness and their spiritual maturity, along with their motivations for posting.

:laugh:Thanks for the laugh.:laugh:

 

[OldRegular]

Zaac You still beating that dead horse.

 

[Zaac]

Leveling accusations of lying is a tactic used by debaters that have nothing left to offer in defense of their side. Please show me where I have repeatedly lied, since you have repeatedly said that I have...and make sure it is a lie and not a difference of opinion or a misunderstanding.

I'm not leveling anything. I'm flat out telling you that you're lying and you know that you're lying. You have said time and time again "he's in the tank for Obama" because that's what YOU want to believe since I'm not a Romney fan. So save all the show me stuff. You know how to read and if you weren't so quick to see my name and always try to belittle everything that is said, maybe you would have gleaned from me saying I'm not voting for either, that you're spreading lies.

It is my right. There are places where this has not always been the case, so I view the excercise of my right to be my duty.

And I have not begrudged you or anyone else for choosing to vote. I'm voting too. But you and many others act as though if someone is not supporting someone who I believe expands the platform for the spread of Mormonism, then something is wrong with them.

Every candidate who is not a child of His is against Christ by default. You may do as you like, but I do not believe it is good stewardship of my citizenship to abstain from voting unless a born-again Christian is running. I am not a single-issue voter.

And you know full well that I have not told anyone to abstain from voting. I've said that I applaud those who choose to not vote and I understand why. But that I would be writing someone in.

I'm a single God voter. If you're against Him, you're not getting my vote.

Name me one truly viable candidate who has any chance whatsoever of getting more than ten percent of the popular vote.

Understand me when I say that I don't care about a viable candidate at this point. We had the opportunity to choose someone who was Christ honoring. We did not and now one of the two major non-Christ honoring candidates will win.

I don't support that which is against Christ just because this world system thinks it has forced me to have to choose between two men who are against Christ. It simply will not happen.

Either way an anti-Christ will have a world stage. But it won't be from my support. I have to continue to stand for Christ no matter who this world system puts up to be elected. But for me personally, I would have a difficult time saying I'm standing for Christ while supporting an anti-Christ.

God has given me a platform upon which to influence others for Him and I will not give up what He has given me in order to see the Republican candidate of choice get elected and spread that wicked religion.

I'm not sure that irreversible damage hasn't already been done, but that doesn't mean I click my heels and hope it all gets better on its own.

It's not going to get better. Again, read Scripture. It gets worse because WE, GOD's people, keep making decisions that are not in support of HIM. we're presenting Mormonism with a worldwide platform to influence folks into hell.

You should move to Montana and establish your own Zaac-kingdom/compound, since you hold the United States in such low esteem as to give up on it so readily.

I'm good right here.:laugh:

My answer to the first question: Responsible.

And I believe it to be irresponsible for a Christian to vote for someone who is against Christ and whose faith gets a larger platform to trip folks into hell. Were you supporting him 6 months ago?

My answer to the second: Not at all, but I would like to think that I had used my vote more wisely.

And that implies again, here's more innuendo for you to overlook Lady Eagle, that those who don't vote as you think they should are unwise.

 

[Zaac]

ITL...I'm certainly NOT "rubberstamping" everything that Zaac has said in his responses in either this thread or any other I have seen him post in but I have been following "the point" he is trying to get across. I think that point is..in my opinion... that Gov. Romney is, by Biblical definition, a member of a false,Satanically inspired religion that is not worthy of the votes of PROFESSED Bible-Believing Christians. His viewpoint is a valid one and worthy of consideration no matter what conclusions we all come to.

That said....some of his responses are "over-the-top" but I personally believe that he is responding out of a growing sense of frustration that comes when otherwise normal, seemingly orthodox Christians apparently CLOSE THEIR BIBLES and begin making their political decisions based on the wisdom of this world. In my opinion, being a Republican and being a Christian are NOT necessarily synonymous with one another. Not sure if they ever were but even more cetain now that they aren't. Actually, our citizenship is in another country (Heaven). We are supposed to be more about helping to "birth" new citizens into a "far Country"...amen?:thumbsup:

Bro.Gregraying:

AMEN!:applause:

 

[Zaac]

Question, If you found yourself living in a small town in Utah where the majority of people were muslim, and there were two muslims running for county recorder...would you...
a. Not vote?
b. Not vote, and consider any Christian who did vote for either candidate to be in sin, even though the county needs a recorder to keep records?
c. Vote for whichever one of them you thought would do the best job, because the county needs a recorder?

I'd recognize that evil abounds and write in someone who was not against Christ. Evil abounds because Christians or at least the folks who say they are Christians forget Who their first love is supposed to be and start compromising over everything.

By not voting for either candidate, are you not yourself allowing one of their platforms to enlarge...by default, as it were?

One of their platforms is going to enlarge regardless. My primary concern is my witness for Christ. And in that witness, I will not be guilty before Him in supporting that which is against Him while saying that I am for Him.

The country is where it is morally because of these type of WRONG decisions by CHRISTIANS, not by the lost.

 

[Zaac]

Agreed. But if a candidate wants to take more of my money via taxes and give it to freeloaders that violates a Biblical principle AND deprives me of money to give to the Lord's work to help win souls to Christ.

Or if a candidate wants to provide for abortion on demand that violates Biblical commands as well. I can't sit on my hands and say I shouldn't take action against such policies.

But we're giving the false teachings of Mormonism a larger worldwide platform. False teaching that is sending folks to hell. So in my little corner of the world it makes no sense to me to say that I want to keep more of my money to give to the Lord's work to help win more souls to Christ, while at the same time giving a platform to that which trips men into hell.

 

[Arbo]

I asked, " Name me one truly viable candidate who has any chance whatsoever of getting more than ten percent of the popular vote."

Zaac, you replied, " Understand me when I say that I don't care about a viable candidate at this point. We had the opportunity to choose someone who was Christ honoring. We did not and now one of the two major non-Christ honoring candidates will win."

You have suggested in the past voting for write-in candidates. After being asked, you offer no names. Why is that?

If you'd rather choose what you consider to be the perfect at the expense of the better, then you will have no moral right on November 5th to complain if Barak Obama is reelected.

 

[LadyEagle]

Oh, OK. I didn't even see that this was General Baptist Discussion. Given the subject matter I thought it was in Politics.

Shouldn't it be moved there?

Only the mods of this forum or an administrator can move this thread.

We are used to the hyperbole and pontification by now, but...

Better question: How long do you think Zaac will last on the BB making personal attacks against other members and calling them liars before he gets banned?

 

[Zaac]

I asked, " Name me one truly viable candidate who has any chance whatsoever of getting more than ten percent of the popular vote."

Zaac, you replied, " Understand me when I say that I don't care about a viable candidate at this point. We had the opportunity to choose someone who was Christ honoring. We did not and now one of the two major non-Christ honoring candidates will win."

You have suggested in the past voting for write-in candidates. After being asked, you offer no names. Why is that?

If you'd rather choose what you consider to be the perfect at the expense of the better, then you will have no moral right on November 5th to complain if Barak Obama is reelected.

If you want that question answered, please start another thread in the Politics forum. This one is about Mormonism and the platform it gets for spreading .

 

[Zaac]

Only the mods of this forum or an administrator can move this thread.

We are used to the hyperbole and pontification by now, but...

Better question: How long do you think Zaac will last on the BB making personal attacks against other members and calling them liars before he gets banned?

And as I've said, I'm used to you pointing out my "personal attacks" while ignoring those from the folks whose politics you agree with. And when people tell lies, they should be called liars.

And if you and anyone else does not want to be called a liar, then stop saying again and again from thread to thread that I'm in the tank for Obama or that I'm an Obama plant when I have PLAINLY said otherwise.

The hypocrisy is showing again so take it back to your politics forum.

 

[Arbo]

I'm not leveling anything. I'm flat out telling you that you're lying and you know that you're lying. You have said time and time again "he's in the tank for Obama" because that's what YOU want to believe since I'm not a Romney fan.

For a lie to be told, there must be knowledge of the truth. I believe, based on your one-sided anti-Romney position, that you are pro-Obama. I may be mistaken, but I see no evidence to contradict my assertion.

I have not lied. You need a better rebuttal.

 

[Arbo]

If you want that question answered, please start another thread in the Politics forum. This one is about Mormonism and the platform it gets for spreading .

If I do, will you answer it?

 

[saturneptune]

Zaac You still beating that dead horse.

And which end of the horse are you really voting for?

Oh here is the answer, just like the blue states, here is a blue horse. LOL

 

[Zaac]

For a lie to be told, there must be knowledge of the truth.

And you have been given that knowledge repeatedly.

I believe, based on your one-sided anti-Romney position, that you are pro-Obama.

So you get to keep telling lies just because of what YOU believe, and another forum moderator gets to bring up me not lasting and getting banned for calling folks liars because of what yall believe even though I have said otherwise?

RI-DARN-DICULOUS. All because of an election.

I may be mistaken, but I see no evidence to contradict my assertion.

Ain't no "may be mistaken". You KNOW you're mistaken as I have said as much to you and others what my position is on BOTH candidates. You and others just seem to think that much like Barack Obama, if you say the same lie again and again and again, folks are gonna believe it. And for someone yall think is so bad, the lot of you surely do act a lot like him when you want.

I have not lied. You need a better rebuttal.

You have lied and continue to do so. But I guess your BELIEF in your mind exempts you from having to call your lie a lie.

 

[Zaac]

If I do, will you answer it?

If I'm still online, why wouldn't I?

 

[Arbo]

If I'm still online, why wouldn't I?

Done. It can be found in the Politics section.

 

[Arbo]

And you have been given that knowledge repeatedly.



So you get to keep telling lies just because of what YOU believe, and another forum moderator gets to bring up me not lasting and getting banned for calling folks liars because of what yall believe even though I have said otherwise?

RI-DARN-DICULOUS. All because of an election.




Ain't no "may be mistaken". You KNOW you're mistaken as I have said as much to you and others what my position is on BOTH candidates. You and others just seem to think that much like Barack Obama, if you say the same lie again and again and again, folks are gonna believe it. And for someone yall think is so bad, the lot of you surely do act a lot like him when you want.



You have lied and continue to do so. But I guess your BELIEF in your mind exempts you from having to call your lie a lie.

Grow up, Zaac. Show some grace. I have admitted the possibility that I may be mistaken, though I think not because of your postings. Your growling reinforces my opinion that I might be spot-on after all.

 

[saturneptune]

For a lie to be told, there must be knowledge of the truth. I believe, based on your one-sided anti-Romney position, that you are pro-Obama. I may be mistaken, but I see no evidence to contradict my assertion.

I have not lied. You need a better rebuttal.

Arbo, you know that I think you have a solid postion on this election. We all understand the dilemma of supporting Romney and the contradictions it produces. I feel the same way. Certainly you have never lied. Maybe Zaac is trying to convey he dislikes Obama and Romney to the same degree.

 

[Arbo]

Arbo, you know that I think you have a solid postion on this election. We all understand the dilemma of supporting Romney and the contradictions it produces. I feel the same way. Certainly you have never lied. Maybe Zaac is trying to convey he dislikes Obama and Romney to the same degree.

Thanks for that. Admittedly, I find the accusation of liar as one of the more offensive labels that is flippantly tossed about without regard for the implications to one's character.

Perhaps you are right about Zaac.

The role of peacemaker suits you.