Muslim says that it is ok to discriminate

[El_Guero]

This country HAS NOT BEEN DOWN THIS BEFORE.

Baptists did not target a major US city and kill thousands.

Baptists did not decieve (lie to government officials) to gain admission into the USA.

Baptists did not take jobs and then demand accomodation for their special religious needs.

And just because you adopted a <edited-LE> child, there is no reason for me to feel that your adoption makes muslims as a whole safer for the security of this country.

I have never encountered a muslim praying out loud in an intimidating manner...and I'm remembering 7 weeks in a muslim country.

Hailed many a cab in those 7 weeks too.

Shared the Gospel with a group of people in the foyer of a mosque

And the biggest blessing of all...We adopted a child who, because of his ethnicity, would have been raised muslim by law. Yet, as an American, he has religious freedom and that gives him a greater opportunity to accept Christ.

Religious freedom is a wonderful thing, but it means we will need to accept the fact that others will have other faiths or no faith at all. We also need to realize that this freedom gives us the greates opportunity for evangelism.

It seems there are some who are in favor of the government imposing restrictions on religion. I suppose to many, that will be ok, as long as its Islam or something foreign that is restricted. Unfortunately, it usually doesn't stop there.

This country has been down this road before...at one time, the dreaded religion that was persecuted was the Baptist faith.

I keep seeing posts where someone feels its time to use the government to rid us of the problems of false religions, homosexuality, etc. Wouldn't it be nice if we took the more biblical approach and evangelized instead?

Of course, that's coming from the Bible...it may not be endorsed by FOX News.

 

[Lagardo]

Get a TV . . . if ya' can afford a computer . . . ya' can afford to watch the news.

:thumbs:

While I don't really care if you cite things in Turabian format, this is hardly "citing a source."

As for getting a TV, haven't we all realized by now that TV news is very unreliable?

 

[El_Guero]

Roger

I gave the source. If you do not accept the source . . . that is a different argument. And that argument has nothing to do with the repeated attempts to discredit my integrity by lying and saying that I did not cite the source.

Posting links to news stories is accepted practice.

No source indicates to the casual reader that there is no validity.

SEE BELOW:

Muslim says that it is ok to discriminate when that is part of one's religious belief.

:jesus:

Erick Vickers of the American Muslim Alliance was on the O'Reilley factor and stated that muslims can (& should) discriminate against riders that did not fit their muslim faith, even if they were blind and had a seeing eye dog.

He went on to say that in America we should accomodate religion . . . I vote for sending muslims back to islam to accomodate my religious faith.

:thumbs:

 

[Lagardo]

Yet you gave no reference as to how you heard this or where someone could validate it for themselves.

That is hardly citing a source.

LE did cite your source later...please learn from that example

 

[El_Guero]

Someday you will learn how to read. DTG: aproximately 061930 hours CST

Yet you gave no reference as to how you heard this or where someone could validate it for themselves.

That is hardly citing a source.

LE did cite your source later...please learn from that example

On the top left corner of the OP, you should have read: Yesterday, 07:48 PM

Muslim says that it is ok to discriminate when that is part of one's religious belief.

:jesus:

Erick Vickers of the American Muslim Alliance was on the O'Reilley factor and stated that muslims can (& should) discriminate against riders that did not fit their muslim faith, even if they were blind and had a seeing eye dog.

He went on to say that in America we should accomodate religion . . . I vote for sending muslims back to islam to accomodate my religious faith.

:thumbs:

 

[carpro]

Yet you gave no reference as to how you heard this or where someone could validate it for themselves.

That is hardly citing a source.

LE did cite your source later...please learn from that example

No, LE provided a link. EG clearly cited his source as the O'Reilly Factor. Transcripts and other info are freely available if one bothers to look.

 

[Lagardo]

This country HAS NOT BEEN DOWN THIS BEFORE.

Baptists did not target a major US city and kill thousands.

Baptists did not decieve (lie to government officials) to gain admission into the USA.

Baptists did not take jobs and then demand accomodation for their special religious needs.

And just because you adopted a muslim child, there is no reason for me to feel that your adoption makes muslims as a whole safer for the security of this country.

Yet Baptists were arrested all the same. Ever wonder why Rhode Island was founded?

And no, I did not adopt a muslim child. My son does not worship allah or follow muhamad and I resent the implication.

I said in a previous post that my son, by his ethnicity, would have been raised muslim by law were it not for his adoption. There is a difference.

 

[El_Guero]

The implication was not made by me. It was made by you. Just as you implied that I lied.

And while I respect your desire for me to attack you, that is not the way I like to discuss.

Nor was it my intent to bring your child into the discussion - you did that.

Your posts read like you are looking for a reason to be angry. I pray that you find what you are looking for.

God bless

Wayne

Yet Baptists were arrested all the same. Ever wonder why Rhode Island was founded?

And no, I did not adopt a muslim child. My son does not worship allah or follow muhamad and I resent the implication.

I said in a previous post that my son, by his ethnicity, would have been raised muslim by law were it not for his adoption. There is a difference.

 

[Lagardo]

The implication was not made by me. It was made by you. Just as you implied that I lied.

I implied niether that my child was a muslim nor that you lied.

I did bring the adoption of my son into this discussion but why does that invite insults?

This thread has sunk to an interesting low. I suggest we stop...we're very far off topic now anyway.

 

[El_Guero]

I did not insult.

So I ask, why did you?

I implied niether that my child was a muslim nor that you lied.

I did bring the adoption of my son into this discussion but why does that invite insults?

This thread has sunk to an interesting low. I suggest we stop...we're very far off topic now anyway.

 

[El_Guero]

I noted that a leader from within a muslim organization suggested that Americans should accomdate him, the imams of the St Paul area, a group of muslim taxi drivers, and other muslims in America for their religious beliefs when those beliefs discriminate against other Americans.

I am incredulous that on a Christian board there seems to be more support for islam than for those that decry what muslims are doing.

I really do not get it. I would expect this if I was on a muslim board.

Muslim says that it is ok to discriminate when that is part of one's religious belief.

:jesus:

Erick Vickers of the American Muslim Alliance was on the O'Reilley factor and stated that muslims can (& should) discriminate against riders that did not fit their muslim faith, even if they were blind and had a seeing eye dog.

He went on to say that in America we should accomodate religion . . . I vote for sending muslims back to islam to accomodate my religious faith.

:thumbs:

 

[LadyEagle]

Moderator Note: I got a "Report Post" complaint, so please stay on topic, Folks. We have 2 pages to go before the 10-page warning note, so if you have anything to add to the discussion concerning the OP, please do so now so the thread will not be closed sooner than that because of personal innuendoes or insults. Thanks.

Lady Eagle

 

[carpro]

It is a good practice to provide the link if you possibly can.

At any rate, it is not laziness to ask the referrer to provide a link - it is lazy to refuse to provide one and harrassment to accuse the asker of laziness.

I agree with your first statement.

After the first request, to continue to badger a poster when he named his source but provided no link is harrassment and possibly laziness , too.

 

[777]

Still waiting....

I'm supposed to be impressed that someone wasn't offended by mosque prayers while he was in a country under Sharia Law???

Originally Posted by Daisy
It is a good practice to provide the link if you possibly can

At any rate, it is not laziness to ask the referrer to provide a link - it is lazy to refuse to provide one and harrassment to accuse the asker of laziness.

Only if you're good enough for the link, are you ever? Uhhhh...

I agree with your first statement.

After the first request, to continue to badger a poster when he named his source but provided no link is harrassment and possibly laziness , too.

Accusing the other person of not posting a link is done solely to imply that person is lying, therefore wrong.

Example: The sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.

A: Prove it! No link, then you're wrong. Liar.

Then they think they won the argument.

I noted that a leader from within a muslim organization suggested that Americans should accomdate him, the imams of the St Paul area, a group of muslim taxi drivers, and other muslims in America for their religious beliefs when those beliefs discriminate against other Americans.

I am incredulous that on a Christian board there seems to be more support for islam than for those that decry what muslims are doing.

I really do not get it. I would expect this if I was on a muslim board.

Might as well be. Bye!

Shows you all that indoctrination about "mutliculturalism" they received in the public school system works afterall. And you thought useful idiots were only used by the Marxists.

God help us all.

 

[carpro]

What it appears to me is that muslims don't want their "constitutional rights", they want their own set of special "constitutional rights".

Separate, but more equal, or something along those lines. Their constant whining is wearing me out.

But not wearing me down.

 

[LadyEagle]

Me, neither. In fact, it encourages me to have more resolve. I graduated long before all the multiculturalism indoctrination and historical revisionism in public schools. And glad I did. And you are right on in your observation - "special constitutional rights."

 

[Lagardo]

Still waiting....

I'm supposed to be impressed that someone wasn't offended by mosque prayers while he was in a country under Sharia Law???

Huh? I don't know if this is about my post, but I never said offended and I never said I was in a country that practiced Sharia Law. I only said that I have been in a muslim country and that I was not intimidated by muslims praying out loud. I do not want more read into my own expereince that is there. Cleary, there are people on this board who have much greater expereince with Islamic extremists.

And, no, I don't expect that to impress anyone.

The interesting mix we did get to see, was not only the rise of Islam, but the death of Christianity. What killed it? 100 years of the government authorizing only one kind of "Christian" church in order appeal to culture and the constant education of atheism in the schools. Perhaps that's where my fear of religious restrictions are rooted.

Accusing the other person of not posting a link is done solely to imply that person is lying, therefore wrong.

Example: The sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.

A: Prove it! No link, then you're wrong. Liar.

Then they think they won the argument.

I believe the discussion about a link was posted when some informative elements of the OP seemed lacking. I was not the first to point out that no link was given, and my point was more that there was a refusal to post a link. Irregardless, it was not my intent to call EG a liar. If he or anyone else feels that in my posts, I made this implication then I apologize.

Shows you all that indoctrination about "mutliculturalism" they received in the public school system works afterall. And you thought useful idiots were only used by the Marxists.

God help us all.

Again, my fear is not the lack of different cultures. My fear is that the same tactics we use to fight islam could be used against us. I am afraid that for the sake of peace, we will see an "accepted" form of any religion, and we Baptists will be labeled the terrorists.

 

[LadyEagle]

Irregardless, it was not my intent to call EG a liar. If he or anyone else feels that in my posts, I made this implication then I apologize.

Moderator comment: Your apology is noted. Thank you. :thumbs:

 

[El_Guero]

Separate and superior is coming through Lima Charlie . . .

What it appears to me is that muslims don't want their "constitutional rights", they want their own set of special "constitutional rights".

Separate, but more equal, or something along those lines. Their constant whining is wearing me out.

But not wearing me down.

 

[El_Guero]

Lagardo

Your apology is appreciated and accepted.

Wayne "EG"

Irregardless, it was not my intent to call EG a liar. If he or anyone else feels that in my posts, I made this implication then I apologize.