Do you reject the final authority of the Lord Jesus Christ as recorded by the Apostle Matthew?
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My Position as a Baptist Believer
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1689Dave
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You do not understand the name of God in the NT is Jesus Christ. Spend some time on this, it changes everything.First of all Dave I disagree... If you Baptize in the name of Jesus only, you have robbed the Godhood... I baptize thee in the name of the Father... I know you believe God the Father gave all those elect to save to the Eternal Son... Right?... I baptize thee in the name of the Son... The Eternal Son had a name... Jesus... He had a name before Mary was told what his name was... Proverbs 30:4... His designation is Christ or the (Messiah), meaning “the anointed one"... Then last of all is the person of the Holy Ghost... the regenerator of the unregenerate... The quickener of the dead... The one who convicts us of sin against an offended Holy God... The three and one Godhead, elected us, gave us and saved us and without all three SALVATION IS IMPOSSIBLE!... Therefore I baptize thee... In the name of the FATHER... And of the SON... And of the HOLY GHOST!... TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY!... Brother Glen
Btw... For clarification sake, in my Old Line Baptist Church I never heard Holy Spirit used in Baptism, only Holy Ghost!... Oh and speaking of the Holy Spirit, to those in the know... I GOT THE BOOK!
In the Greek translation, kyrios was used to render the divine name Yahweh (יהוה, yhwh). Thus it became possible to transfer to Jesus statements that were attributed in the Old Testament to God.
Ramos, A. (2016). Jesus Christ, Titles of. In J. D. Barry, D. Bomar, D. R. Brown, R. Klippenstein, D. Mangum, C. Sinclair Wolcott, … W. Widder (Eds.), The Lexham Bible Dictionary. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press.
1689Dave
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Of course not. But you are void of understanding the text if you deny the Apostles baptized in the name of Jesus based on it.
I do not deny that folk were baptized “in the name of Jesus” but not a single scripture outside if Matthew actually states the baptismal formula.
What apparently has been left out of your education was that the surrounding the centuries of the early church, folks used baptism as to whom they were identified as a person to follow.
For example, John baptized for repentance (Acts 19). He pointed the way to Christ, but his baptizing was not that of the death, burial, and resurrection likeness picture of the Christ, but rather of humans making decisions to change their living.
The Scripture gives an example of those baptized unto the teaching of John having to be re-baptized to the teaching of Christ.
Therefore, what the words in Acts mean by “in the name of...” is NOT a formula to follow, but a direction of discipleship to accept.
Misinformed comes in many forms.
The quoted post is an example of not giving the whole account and keeping the balance.
kyrios Means “master, ruler, lord” and it is that capacity the Scriptures uses the term.
I am “kyrios” of my home. I own my home, I am the ruler of my home.
Because the Lord Jesus Christ is the creator and sustaining authority, He is the “kyrios” Jesus Christ.
Other ways “kyrios” is typically translated is master, sir, owner ...
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No, of course not.
There is really no interpretation needed.
That Jesus said to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit is very clear. That the Apostle's were obedient and baptized in the name of Christ is clear. That the early church baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit in the first century AD is clear.
You are the only person who seems utterly confused.
The larger question, @1689Dave , is whether or not one who has been baptized (believers baptism) with the person baptizing using the words "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" are actually baptized (does it "count")?
If so, then why the divisiveness?
If not, then what is the status of the believer who is baptized based on the words another chooses to use?
If so, then why the divisiveness?
If not, then what is the status of the believer who is baptized based on the words another chooses to use?
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