My Position as a Baptist Believer

[1689Dave]

This is to clarify my position as a Baptist with beliefs stemming from The 1689 London Baptist confession. It is an attempt to be recognized as such and not be removed from that classification.

1689 Baptist Confession

 

[church mouse guy]

Are you a Calvinist?

 

[1689Dave]

Are you a Calvinist?

Calvinistic Baptist But differ from Calvin on many points.

 

[Yeshua1]

Calvinistic Baptist But differ from Calvin on many points.

Infant Baptism, view on sacraments?

 

[1689Dave]

Infant Baptism, view on sacraments?

Calvin had more loose screws than most even know about, baptism and sacraments being the least. I was baptized by immersion in water in the Name of Jesus Christ (the correct manner) after the Acts model as a trinitarian believer. most baptists get this wrong.

 

[Reformed]

I was baptized by immersion in water in the Name of Jesus Christ (the correct manner) after the Acts model as a trinitarian believer. most baptists get this wrong.

Dave, I certainly have pronounced differences with many non-Calvinistic and Dispensational Baptists, but in all my years of being a Baptist I can attest that the great majority of conservative Baptist churches baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit (i.e. Trinitarian). How do you think most conservative Baptist churches get this wrong?

 

[1689Dave]

Dave, I certainly have pronounced differences with many non-Calvinistic and Dispensational Baptists, but in all my years of being a Baptist I can attest that the great majority of conservative Baptist churches baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit (i.e. Trinitarian). How do you think most conservative Baptist churches get this wrong?

The Catholics changed it when the trinitarian issues began emerging. But the early Church always baptized believers by immersion in water in the Name of Jesus Christ. Acts proves this. Jesus Christ is the name of the Trinity as depicted in the Ecumenical Creeds.

 

[1689Dave]

Water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ by dipping in, under and out of the water represents Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. Which is essentially the gospel message. So we baptize in the name of him who died and lives for us. Having ourselves publicly and symbolically identified with his name and the gospel message. Exactly as the disciples did throughout the book of Acts.

Only believers should receive baptism since Philip underscored the need of believing with the heart before he would baptize the eunuch.

Baptism does not save a person because Simon the sorcerer received baptism and remained lost.

"Baptism" of infants is not biblical. And is more akin to the Evangelicals who hold "baby dedication services".

Baptism of believers in Jesus' name by pouring or even sprinkling doesn't symbolize the gospel message. But might be OK when enough water is not available or conditions do not allow.

Does baptism in Jesus’ name contradict Jesus’ command to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? No, because Jesus Christ is the name of YHWH the triune God.

 

[Yeshua1]

Calvin had more loose screws than most even know about, baptism and sacraments being the least. I was baptized by immersion in water in the Name of Jesus Christ (the correct manner) after the Acts model as a trinitarian believer. most baptists get this wrong.

We are baptized in name of the father, Jesus and Holy Spirit as per Great Commission!

 

[Yeshua1]

Calvin had more loose screws than most even know about, baptism and sacraments being the least. I was baptized by immersion in water in the Name of Jesus Christ (the correct manner) after the Acts model as a trinitarian believer. most baptists get this wrong.

Calvin had faults in theology, but still great theologian!

 

[1689Dave]

We are baptized in name of the father, Jesus and Holy Spirit as per Great Commission!

“Then Peter said unto them, ‘Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38 (NCPB)

“(for as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus).” Acts 8:16 (NCPB)

 

[InTheLight]

How do you think most conservative Baptist churches get this wrong?

 

[Jerome]

And, just what sort of group were you involved with anyway, when you were baptized?

 

[Yeshua1]

“Then Peter said unto them, ‘Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38 (NCPB)

“(for as yeu see this in same way the Jesus Only Oneness do?t he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus).” Acts 8:16 (NCPB)

So you see this in same way Jesus Only Oneness do?

 

[ezra2020]

nothing wrong being a baptist allthough there are over humteen branches of baptist.. i am like a old preacher man said thank God i got saved before becoming a baptist. which does not get us to heaven .another saying the name tag will either fall off going up or burn off going down . i am ordained Gen baptist but preach where the door opens

 

[Salty]

"Baptism" of infants is not biblical. And is more akin to the Evangelicals who hold "baby dedication services". ....

Are you suggesting that a baby dedication is unnecessary, wrong, unBiblical or something similar?
And while we are at it - Are Baptists wrong when the dedicate a new structure for use as a church building.

 

[church mouse guy]

Why are so many Calvinists aligned with the social justice movement?

 

[1689Dave]

And, just what sort of group were you involved with anyway, when you were baptized?

It was a trinitarian independent church based on Baptist 4 point Calvinism.

 

[1689Dave]

Are you suggesting that a baby dedication is unnecessary, wrong, unBiblical or something similar?
And while we are at it - Are Baptists wrong when the dedicate a new structure for use as a church building.

I think it is unnecessary. God's elect will come to Christ regardless of your ceremonies. The church is not a building, a work of the flesh, and cursed. That is a tornado magnet.

 

[1689Dave]

So you see this in same way Jesus Only Oneness do?

Based on what I've said, what do you think?