5 point Gillinist
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Being chosen before the foundation of the earth ( as the Bible says ), and being given faith do not equate to "you never have to trust in God." No one holding to the calvinistic view in this thread has exemplified pride in holding to election, the only pride I have seen is from you.If one has to be given faith can they really call it their faith? Calvinists pride themselves on thinking they were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. If they were in fact chosen before the foundation of the world then they would be saved prior to having faith as the only ones in Christ are those that believe.
I find it odd that calvinists get so upset when the factual errors of their theology are pointed out to them.
And further to to your akin to comment, I continue to point out the errors in the calvinist view because I do want all to know the truth so as to be saved.
Calvinists seem to have no problem when they question non-calvinists faith
I'm not upset by so-called errors, because you haven't pointed out any, you've simply concocted in your mind what you think it is we believe. What irritates me is questioning a brother's salvation because he doesn't believe what you believe, which is what YOU did.
Again, you've pointed out no errors, but you have displayed great pride in what you believe to be the truth, which you oddly accuse Calvinists of doing. I couldn't tell from your comment that you wanted anyone to be saved, and your subsequent comments exemplify your ongoing dishonesty. Oddly enough, it is the prideful Calvinists I see being more fervent in evangelism, as opposed to the non-calvinists.