Negativism at Home Could Produce Defeat Of U.S. Policy in Iraq

"...with other other losers from last November's elections."

More personal attacks. I guess that is allowed. Ken...dost thou remember the "slander debate"?

 

KJ, he's got Christians eating out of the palm of his hands. All he has to do is invoke God and use "good" and "evil" over and over again.

Meanwhile, every other day 30 people are blown up over there while we're told to have patience. We're in this for the long haul and it's a fair price to pay for...........oh wait, what are we there for?

Just how are we going to train these Iraqi's to defend themselves? It's obvious we've made very little progress so far.

How arrogant of us to assume we can go around the globe tearing down and rebuilding hostile nations in our image.

Even if we were able to get a relatively functioning independant government and military going over there(say in 12 years according to the latest Rumsfeld interview), what do you think will happen the minute we pull out?

 

Which conservatives am I smarter than? Can you tell me who these robots are who blindly agree with the president on everything? Is it Mayor Ed Koch? Arnold Shwartzenegger? Dick Morris? Zell Miller? Tom Tancredo? Jim Holt? Who are they?

Joseph Botwinick

 

And just how much oil do we import from Iraq, Travelsong? Can you tell us? </font>[/QUOTE]Well, Ken,

Since you work for an oil company, why don't you tell us? Here is my guess: Probably not much. Am I right?

Joseph Botwinick

 

That would be tempting.

As long as ya'll keep exporting it to us I see no reason to do so. </font>[/QUOTE]

 

None I guess. If you want to play it that way. Look...I don't have time nor do I know how to go find all the "facts" (like you have any). I am simply arguing from emotion. I see you and Ken making personal attacks and saying disrespectful things so I jump on it. If you hadn't done that I may not have said anything.

I really don't care about your conservatives, nor your liberals in government. I really don't care about your country. Sure I love my girlfriend...she can't help it she was born there. You can carry guns and many of you have big mouths...aside from that...what is so special about you?

 

"As long as ya'll keep exporting it to us I see no reason to do so."

Exactly my point. If we stopped, you'd attack us for it. but then again why should we worry about that? You thought Vietnam was a problem?

by the way, you obviously disagree with church mouse guy. He is for putting up a wall between Canada and the U.S., thereby implying you don't need our oil. Which is it? who is right?

 

This has been very obvious for a while. Thanks for admitting it.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Your only news source must be someone like Al Franken. If you don't know the truth about what we are accomplishing in helping the Iraqi people, then I suggest you come out of the hole in the ground you are apparently living in with other other losers from last November's elections. </font>[/QUOTE]No, but I like how you guys keep trying to push all of these liberal sterotypes on anyone who disagrees with you. For the millionth time I am a conservative and a registered republican who voted for Bush.

Any humanitarian good we've done over there is entirely unrelated to the reason we went in the first place.

This war was sold as part of the package of the 'War On Terror'. In other words, the reason we went over there has nothing to do with the war we are currently fighting. We got in way over our heads, whether through ignorance, stupidity, or cold calculation. It really doesn't matter. It's time to get out, and get out now. That is unless you're prepared to head over and fight your war....

 

Of course I admit it. Don't think you've won anything by thanking me. It should have been obvious that I was furious with your personal attacks against others.

Now...if you really care about educating "liberals"...where do I go to find all the facts that you conservatives are so privy to? Ahh yes...I bet you won't tell me.

 

Your only news source must be someone like Al Franken. If you don't know the truth about what we are accomplishing in helping the Iraqi people, then I suggest you come out of the hole in the ground you are apparently living in with other other losers from last November's elections. </font>[/QUOTE]No, but I like how you guys keep trying to push all of these liberal sterotypes on anyone who disagrees with you. For the millionth time I am a conservative and a registered republican who voted for Bush. </font>[/QUOTE]For whom did you vote in 04?

Joseph Botwinick

 

Your only news source must be someone like Al Franken. If you don't know the truth about what we are accomplishing in helping the Iraqi people, then I suggest you come out of the hole in the ground you are apparently living in with other other losers from last November's elections. </font>[/QUOTE]No, but I like how you guys keep trying to push all of these liberal sterotypes on anyone who disagrees with you. For the millionth time I am a conservative and a registered republican who voted for Bush. </font>[/QUOTE]For whom did you vote in 04?

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]Bush, both times.

 

What would you like to know?

Joseph Botwinick

 

A wall is to keep out illegal aliens, not trade. Besides oil comes in through pipelines such as Enbridge Pipeline. </font>[/QUOTE]Ken, I disagree. He didn't only mean to keep out illegal aliens. A wall is a wall is a wall...he did not explain what he meant. Oh...and oil pipelines would PROBABLY be stopped at "the wall". I don't know...I'm just thinkin that could be the case.