Negativism at Home Could Produce Defeat Of U.S. Policy in Iraq

[KenH]

Wars come to an end because of "negotiation".

I lost track in all of these posts who wrote the above quote. But I disagree. I don't see where Germany and Japan and Italy in the World War II saw anything end by negotiation. The war ended when they surrendered unconditionally.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Travelsong:
I do not think we should be committing indefinite amounts of American lives to this endeavor.

Neither do I. And we are not. I predict(dispensationalists do it all the time so why can't I

) that by at least the end of 2006 we will be seeing a significant draw down of U.S. forces in Iraq. Yes, there will still be some terrorists to do deal with in Iraq after we leave but by then the Iraqis should be a in a position to basically handle that job themselves.

 

[Enoch]

Travelsong
Is it really that difficult for you to tell us the positive results from Iraq and Afghanistan and what reasons you voted for President Bush. Clearly this is an admission on your part.

I'm not filled with hatred for anything except this unjust war.

 

[Enoch]

LE It is common knowledge that we have terrorist cells. I will leave that up to the professionals to weed them out. Do you think it is beneficial to criticize our leader and military to become successful in area that needs ratification? Perhaps there is a better way to go about it. I do not think it is rational to remove all of our military around the globe to resolve this issue. I also do not believe every Muslim is a terrorist. I have many Muslim friends and they are more patriotic than some Americans on this board. Our real danger at home is with the people who undermine our military and President and seek to remove any trace of God from our country. It just makes it that much easier for our enemy.

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by Enoch:
King James you better watch out for LE if you come over to our beautiful country illegally.

I also do not recall sharing my views on immigration with you. Maybe you could tell Joseph what exactly you are looking for concerning correct information.

Enoch...you assume I would go to your country illegally. That is wrong. Besides...those who tend to go there illegally are desperate to be there. I would hardly call myself 'desperate' to be there.

Don't flatter yourself.

I believe I asked Joseph where I should go to find all the facts that conservatives are privy to. It should not be a difficult thing to do for any conservative.

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by KenH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Wars come to an end because of "negotiation".

I lost track in all of these posts who wrote the above quote. But I disagree. I don't see where Germany and Japan and Italy in the World War II saw anything end by negotiation. The war ended when they surrendered unconditionally. </font>[/QUOTE]Ken, that was me. You can disagree but look closely at what I said. I didn't say all wars end by negotiation. I was countering the the "belief" that war could not be ended by negotiation. The way they said "negotiation" led me to believe that anyways.

 

[OCC]

"Do you think it is beneficial to criticize our leader and military"
Enoch, living in a free country gives them the RIGHT to DO that.

Only "bad people" believe the government and military are beyond criticism.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by King James:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Enoch:
King James you better watch out for LE if you come over to our beautiful country illegally.

I also do not recall sharing my views on immigration with you. Maybe you could tell Joseph what exactly you are looking for concerning correct information.

Enoch...you assume I would go to your country illegally. That is wrong. Besides...those who tend to go there illegally are desperate to be there. I would hardly call myself 'desperate' to be there.

Don't flatter yourself.

I believe I asked Joseph where I should go to find all the facts that conservatives are privy to. It should not be a difficult thing to do for any conservative. </font>[/QUOTE]KJ,

Facts about what?

Joseph Botwinick

 

[OCC]

Facts about all things that conservatives know to be facts. Do you want to help or do you not?

 

[Enoch]

If you truly want information which Joseph has willing offered to you I think being more specific would help.

 

[OCC]

I thought it was obvious. Everything we've been arguing about. The war, policies, etc. Basically I want to know where he gets facts from so that I can get them.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Please be more specific. What would you like to know about the war? If I have some information about it, I will gladly share it with you.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[OCC]

Hey Joseph, thanks. Just anything that you have used to gather facts and beliefs regarding the war, etc.
Maybe what the war is about...since I have this suspicion oil is involved.
Maybe why you are fighting to liberate people in Iraq but not in other countries that suffer from oppression as well...or which countries you may actually be in because all I hear about is Iraq.

Just any facts that you have to know. A few days back someone said that Canada leads the world in gay marriages and I spent twenty minutes trying to find the facts on that, and couldn't. I never claimed to be a fact gathering genius.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

KJ,

I would offer this book here to find some good information:

The Case for Democracy: The Power of Freedom to Overcome Tyranny and Terror by: Natan Sharansky

Joseph Botwinick

 

[OCC]

Well thank you for the link Joseph, even though you "dismissed me".

 

[LadyEagle]

Try Google, KJ.

 

[OCC]

Yeah LE, I tried Google in regards to the gay marriage thing and my head was spinning. lol I couldn't find anything to help me.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by King James:
Maybe what the war is about...Maybe why you are fighting to liberate people in Iraq but not in other countries that suffer from oppression as well...or which countries you may actually be in because all I hear about is Iraq.

Maybe this will help, KJ:

www.americandaily.com/article/397

 

[LadyEagle]

This link will really help you, KJ:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

 

[OCC]

Thank you very much guys. Just added to my favourites. I appreciate your help.