Negativism at Home Could Produce Defeat Of U.S. Policy in Iraq

[Travelsong]

We've got our oil, now it's just a question of securing it.

The new oil for blood program is going to be costly.

 

[OCC]

How long til the conservatives call for Canada's neck and order our oil and resources to be seized?

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by King James:
"I think the left cannot help themselves from their intense negativity. It is madness! They are so miserable and full of angry and hate that nothing else can flow from their hearts. They can continue to spread their venom to destroy America but they will never reach their goal. They are the minority and their anti-American ways are more and more evident to the American people."

I think you are wrong. Conservatives fit in that picture just as neatly. Liberals are the minority eh? Funny...almost half the country VOTED for them! And since when does majority make right? Would that make Muslims in the Middle East right?

Anti-American? You sound foolish. My girlfriend's grandfather fought in Vietnam and he is a Democrat and he is probably more patriotic than you are. You should listen to yourself. So against others having the freedom to believe as they choose. Who is ANTI-AMERICAN here???

1. Those 8 million Muslims in Iraq who recently voted for democracy are right. Those in other countries have never had that opportunity, so we cannot know what they would really choose if they truly had a choice. But, we do see the beginnings of rumblings for freedom throughout the middle east ever since January in Egypt, and in Lebanon. This is part of the reasons the non-Iraqi terrorists are fighting so hard to stop democracy in Iraq. Because they know it will be the first step to them losing their grip of power over the people they oppress.

2. Liberals are the minority because they recieved less than half the votes. President Bush recieved more than half the votes. Now, I don't know what kind of math you guys in Canada use, but here in America, that is a majority for Bush, which is probably why in your very next sentence you start making the argument against the majority, because your side lost.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by Travelsong:
We've got our oil, now it's just a question of securing it.

The new oil for blood program is going to be costly.

Where is all this oil. Still using that tired old idiotic argument. It is no wonder your side continues losing elections.

 

[Travelsong]

We'd have to find a different pretense. Maybe we'll discover a 'vast terrorist network' up north and be forced to help you 'protect' yourselves.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by King James:
How long til the conservatives call for Canada's neck and order our oil and resources to be seized?

I don't believe we have any reason to do so. Do you have terrorists training camps in Canada? Do you harbor terrorists? Do you pay terrorists families money to go to Israel (one of our allies) and blow themselves up and kill Jews? Is there something I don't know about Canada? I thought you guys were peace loving liberals.

 

[OCC]

Joseph, again with the mocking. Sad...it hinders your point.

I don't recall saying exactly half voted for them. I said ALMOST half. Get it right, capiche?

As for arguing against the majority, you know why I said what I said and you understood it perfectly.

My "side" did not lose. If you remember very well you'd see I said on a post that I don't support ANY party that is power. I support the opposition. Most people in their right mind would as well...but you are content to put your blind trust in the party in power and believe they have your best interest at heart. You are past "draft age" and have not learned that yet. I learned it a long time ago.

Now...care to tell me what problem you have with me that you persist in mocking me in every post?

 

[Enoch]

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What about them? If you think all of our brave men and women around the globe should come home to protect the border you clearly are not thinking rationally. The war at home is not with illegal aliens but with people (regardless of their claimed political affiliation) who undermine our military, our President and spread their venom at whatever cost. I would enjoy seeing some of them deported.

 

[OCC]

"Where is all this oil." My guess is it's in Iraq?

You have no reason to take our resources? Oh that's right...you already do! Softwood lumber issue?

Why don't you continue your war on terror and come up and free us Canadian citizens who are under intense oppression from our dictatorial LIBERAL party? What...you thought I was a liberal?

 

[OCC]

"...spread their venom..."

the black helicopters are coming to take you away.

There...everyone can mock me...I shall do it back.

 

[Travelsong]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Travelsong:
We've got our oil, now it's just a question of securing it.

The new oil for blood program is going to be costly.

Where is all this oil. Still using that tired old idiotic argument. It is no wonder your side continues losing elections.

</font>[/QUOTE]Just who is my side? I'm a conservative who voted for Bush.

You "conservative Christians" who have sold your souls to this man better start getting your heads screwed on straight. This is no longer an issue dividing republicans and democrats. Clear thinking people from across all sections of society realise that this war is and always was unrelated to Terrorism or national security. Furthermore, there is no end in sight, and there will be no victory.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Then why did they vote to continue the war, as it was the central issue of the campaign? Who did you vote for last year. Face it...your guy lost and now you are whining about it. I don't agree with Bush (I am not a stupid brainless robot as you tried to paint me as) on everything. But I support him on the war.

We are winning and will be victorious in this war, whether you like it or not.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[OCC]

This blind devotion to a mere man who says he's a conservative...yet I've heard many conservatives say is too liberal for them...is frightening eh?

The same blind devotion will be given to the antichrist who will have the sheeple in his grasp hook, line and sinker. And I shall laugh at the "losers". lol

 

[OCC]

Pretty sad when a vote on continuing a war is a central issue of a campaign for an election. There are other important things as well.

 

[OCC]

"We are winning and will be victorious in this war, whether you like it or not."

I doubt that. The Bible says terrorism will INCREASE in the last days. Says nothing about you winning a war against it. Whom shall I believe? The Bible or your empty bravado?

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Travelsong:
This is your war, not mine.

Actually this is your war if you are an American. And I am getting sick and tired of people like you rhetorically spitting in the faces of our troops who are protecting your rear so you and the rest of the losers from last November can even post on this board.

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

That is just it... I don't have blind devotion to him. I oppose several of the things he wants to do. But I do support the war.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Enoch]

King James stick to your Canadian bacon eh!
Unless you want to become an American like most foreigners.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Travelsong:
Since then we've done squat with no end in sight.

Your only news source must be someone like Al Franken. If you don't know the truth about what we are accomplishing in helping the Iraqi people, then I suggest you come out of the hole in the ground you are apparently living in with other other losers from last November's elections.

 

[OCC]

Fine then Joseph. You are smarter than some conservatives.

Enoch...let me know when you start making sense. No...I don't want to be an American. In fact, I may marry an American and will never give up my citizenship. But once again, someone with no knowledge whatsoever thinks it's all about "wanting to become an American citizen". You should hear yourself.

I'll stick to my Canadian bacon...you stick to your yahoo cowboy ways, attempting to force the world to believe as you say. They will only hate you more.