New Birth before and Unto Faith !

[savedbymercy]

if Christ repents???

Should be of instead if, so it should read:



That's Repentance, a change of mind. Now this is said of the New Creation, the Born Again One, the Saved One ! Only the Saved , Newly begotten Man by the Resurrection life of Christ repents at the Gospel command ! Only the Saved, newly Begotten Man Believes the Gospel of their Salvation !

Look at your keyboard, the i and o are side by side..

 

[DHK]

Should be of instead if, so it should read:



That's Repentance, a change of mind. Now this is said of the New Creation, the Born Again One, the Saved One ! Only the Saved , Newly begotten Man by the Resurrection life of Christ repents at the Gospel command ! Only the Saved, newly Begotten Man Believes the Gospel of their Salvation !

Look at your keyboard, the i and o are side by side..

I type without looking at my keyboard. I look at the words on the screen.
The difference between those two little prepositions, though it be just one letter, are immense.

 

[savedbymercy]

dhk

I type without looking at my keyboard.

Good, now address the points of post 152 !

 

[DHK]

Everyone Christ died for, shall receive a New Birth by His Resurrected Life, that is what Rom 5:10m speaks to

Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Jesus is the resurrection and the Life Jn 11:25

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Believe is the key word here. You must believe. If you don't believe you cannot live. You will never have eternal life.
Have you believed?
If so when?
Tell us about it.

This resurrection Life is produced by the Holy Spirit, He Quickens, communicates that resurrection Life from the Head to the Body, and by His Agency, they are born out of Incorruptible seed, the Word of God. 1 Pet 1:23

Born out of the incorruptible Word of God through belief.
It must be accepted through belief (John 1:12)
...to whom gave he authority to become the sons of God even to them that believe on his name.
One becomes a child of God (is born again) by believing on his name.
There is no salvation outside of faith.
Have you put your faith in Christ?
If so when?
Tell us about it.

23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

The being born again here is reference back to 1 Pet 1:3 begotten again. It's the same exact phrase in the original ! The word anagennaō:

to produce again, be born again, born anew

2) metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

This word is used twice in the NT in 1 Pet 1:3 and 1 Pet 1:23 !

This connects the New Birth of 1 Pet 1:3 with that of 1 Pet 1:23 out of the incorruptible seed, the Word of God, or the Logos of God, the Essential Word , who is Jesus Christ !

They were born out of His Resurrected Life ! By the Quickening of the Spirit 1 Cor 15:45

45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.


Now I would like to see any of this refuted by scripture !

I have refuted this many times. You don't listen. You copy and paste, copy and paste--the same verses over and over again. If I do refute them you don't listen and then you don't accept what is given anyway. You turn present commands, as "repent!" in to a passive voice of something already accomplished. In other words you pervert the word according to your own liking. You won't be convinced no matter who debates with you.

You are so set in your theology, and yet so fearful that you will be exposed that you can't even give your own testimony of salvation. That is truly sad.

 

[savedbymercy]

dhk

Born out of the incorruptible Word of God through belief.

No born out of The Incorruptible Seed by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Begotten Again here is the greek word anagennaō which means:


to produce again, be born again, born anew
2) metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Now How does Peter state , under inspiration of God, how one is born Again ?

That same word born again is used in 1 Pet 1:23 !

 

[DHK]

dhk



No born out of The Incorruptible Seed by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Begotten Again here is the greek word anagennaō which means:


to produce again, be born again, born anew
2) metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Now How does Peter state , under inspiration of God, how one is born Again ?

That same word born again is used in 1 Pet 1:23 !

Born again by the word of God.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
Salvation is by faith and faith alone.
to whom gave he the authority to become the sons of God even to them that believe on his name. John 1:12
--It is by faith and faith alone.

 

[savedbymercy]

dhk

Born again by the word of God.

Yes, Jesus Christ is the Word of God, The Logos, who was raised from the Dead.

Now, answer the question:

No born out of The Incorruptible Seed by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Begotten Again here is the greek word anagennaō which means:


to produce again, be born again, born anew

2) metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Now How does Peter state , under inspiration of God, how one is born Again ?[/B]

That same word born again is used in 1 Pet 1:23 !

 

[DHK]

Now How does Peter state , under inspiration of God, how one is born Again ?[/B]

That same word born again is used in 1 Pet 1:23 !

By the word of God which liveth and abideth forever!
One must have faith in that word, the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation. It is the gospel which saves. Salvation is by faith and faith alone.

 

[savedbymercy]

By the word of God which liveth and abideth forever!
One must have faith in that word, the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation. It is the gospel which saves. Salvation is by faith and faith alone.

Yes, Jesus Christ is the Word of God, The Logos, who was raised from the Dead.

Now, answer the question:

No born out of The Incorruptible Seed by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Begotten Again here is the greek word anagennaō which means:


to produce again, be born again, born anew

2) metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Now How does Peter state , under inspiration of God, how one is born Again ?

That same word born again is used in 1 Pet 1:23 !

Do not neglect what Peter said in 1 Pet 1:3 this time !

 

[DHK]

Now How does Peter state , under inspiration of God, how one is born Again ?

That same word born again is used in 1 Pet 1:23 !

Do not neglect what Peter said in 1 Pet 1:3 this time !

I am not twisting Scripture for your sake.

 

[savedbymercy]

I am not twisting Scripture for your sake.

So you are going to avoid what Peter stated as how one is born again in 1 Pet 1:3 ?

 

[DHK]

So you are going to avoid what Peter stated as how one is born again in 1 Pet 1:3 ?

There is no "how" in that verse.
There is only "purpose."
The reason why we are born again is that it gives us a living hope through the resurrection of the dead. It is a benefit of the new birth. It is not a how, but rather a why, a purpose.

 

[savedbymercy]

dhk

There is no "how" in that verse.

Sure it is. Are you going to dismiss what Peter states as to WHY one is born Again in 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Some Translate the verse 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

So how does Peter under inspiriation of God say that one is Born Again in 1 Pet 1:3 ?

 

[Yeshua1]

dhk



Sure it is. Are you going to dismiss what Peter states as to WHY one is born Again in 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Some Translate the verse 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

So how does Peter under inspiriation of God say that one is Born Again in 1 Pet 1:3 ?

ONLY those who place faith in the person/work of Christ will get saved by grace of God!

ONE requiremnent of God to have us saved, is to place faith in Christ!

 

[savedbymercy]

yesh

ONLY those who place faith in the person/work of Christ will get saved by grace of God!

You did not deal with the post, and to top it off you teach a false gospel !

 

[Moriah]

All are unrighteous, and Jesus died for the sins of the unrighteous.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

We all have access by faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. See also Romans 3:22, and Ephesians 2:18.

All humans have the chance for Jesus to save them.

1 Timothy 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe. See also Titus 2:11; 1 Timothy2:3-6; John 1:6-13; 1 John 2:2; John 3:16-21; and, John 3:36.

Where does faith come from?

Faith comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:14. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11.

 

[savedbymercy]

All are unrighteous, and Jesus died for the sins of the unrighteous.

He died only for the unrighteous elect ! The children of the devil, the seed of the serpent, Christ did not die for, yet they too are unrighteous !

 

[Moriah]

He died only for the unrighteous elect ! The children of the devil, the seed of the serpent, Christ did not die for, yet they too are unrighteous !

They are children of the devil because they love darkness instead of the light. They are children of the devil because they do as the devil does. They are children of the devil because they resist the Holy Spirit.


But concerning Israel he says, "All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and obstinate people." Romans 10:21.

"But as for you who forsake the LORD and forget my holy mountain, who spread a table for Fortune and fill bowls of mixed wine for Destiny, I will destine you for the sword, and you will all bend down for the slaughter; for I called but you did not answer, I spoke but you did not listen. You did evil in my sight and chose what displeases me." Isaiah 65:11-12.

Ezekiel 18:23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

Ezekiel 18:32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?'

John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

 

[DHK]

He died only for the unrighteous elect ! The children of the devil, the seed of the serpent, Christ did not die for, yet they too are unrighteous !

Jesus chose Judas Iscariot as one of his disciples. Again and again, he gave him the opportunity to repent. Even at the very end he questioned him again: "Why do you betray the son of man with a kiss," trying to reach his conscience. Why would Jesus spend all that time with Judas if it were just a matter of Judas being one of the so-called non-elect? Why not just cast him off earlier as a dirty dog? No, Christ died for the sins of Judas Iscariot as well. Even at the end of Judas' life, he had the opportunity, not just to feel sorry for his sin, but to truly repent. The choice was his.

 

[Moriah]

We must repent or perish. Repent means to be sorry for your sins and desire to turn from them.

That is the meaning of repent.