Thinkingstuff
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ccrobinson said:You'll thank me later.
Is it just Season 2 in the box set you're going to buy, or is it Seasons 3 and/or 4 also?
for right now season 2.
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for right now season 2.
My vote still goes to Eccleston as best Doctor. Tennant ended up with some of the best Who stories ever in seasons 3 & 4 though. I still can't separate new seasons 1, 3 & 4 in rankings for various reasons 
Season 2 had one of worst episodes ever....if haven't read the whole thread don't worry, you'll know it when you see it :laugh: I still have the set though, even with THAT episode in there
Season 2 had one of worst episodes ever....if haven't read the whole thread don't worry, you'll know it when you see it :laugh: I still have the set though, even with THAT episode in there
ccrobinson
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I wouldn't go back and read this thread, because we try not to spoil things, but I'm sure we do. For example, somebody spoiled it for me when they said that the Doctor regenerated after Parting of the Ways. I'm still annoyed by that.
That story had the most cringeworthy line in the history of cringeworthy lines. *shudder*
That story had the most cringeworthy line in the history of cringeworthy lines. *shudder*
Thinkingstuff
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now You make me wonder if I should get season 2.ccrobinson said:
ccrobinson
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One line in Fear Her doesn't make the season bad. Even though Pete and I put Season 2 at the bottom of the list of these 4 NuWho seasons, that doesn't mean it's a bad season, because it isn't. Besides, if you have any ideas about watching Seasons 3 and 4, and you definitely should, then you need to see the important things that happen in Season 2.
And there I was thinking we were talking about Love and Monsters...
ccrobinson
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Probably, but I've softened my stance a bit on Love & Monsters. I've never liked the "resolution", if you can call it that, but that one line in Fear Her really annoys me because it's soo awful.
But that line is made up for by "they may shoot me, but I'm unarmed, so I have the moral high ground."
BTW, the trailer for "The Next Doctor" was shown during Children in Need and you can find it on Youtube, which is useful for everybody except Matt, who's probably seen it several times by now.
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Only once! And what is the awful line from Fear Her?
ccrobinson
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I said this at the time I saw Fear Her.
I have just one question about "The Next Doctor" trailer. How does David Morrissey, a future Doctor, not recognize himself when he was #10? Anybody want to speculate?
*barf*
I have just one question about "The Next Doctor" trailer. How does David Morrissey, a future Doctor, not recognize himself when he was #10? Anybody want to speculate?
Thinkingstuff
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ccrobinson said:
I'm rewatching season one and am waiting for season 2 to arrive. So far I don't like how young David Tennant looks compared to Eccelson.
ccrobinson
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That was one of the first things I said after the Doctor regenerated, that he looked so much younger. You'll get used to it.
I saw this on the skiffy Doctor Who forum and thought I'd mention it here.
The 5 Stages of Regeneration
1. Pre-Regeneration Anxiety
You've just heard that "YOUR" Doctor is leaving. Your head fills with horrible thoughts and recriminations like, "How could he do this to me?" and "The show will be total rubbish without him", and "I am not going to watch it anymore just on principle."
2. Regeneration Trauma
Oh no, it's happening. No, don't do it. Don't you dare leave me!! NO NO NO NO (buries face in hands crying - eventually you look up) WHOS THAT???
3. Post-Regeneration Blues
1-3 Doctor Who stories in to the new Doctor's reign and you're not happy with the show. It doesn't seem as good. "YOUR" Doctor would have done thing differently/better. The new guy isn't nearly as good, but you still watch.
4. Acceptance
You've gotten used to the New Doctor. He's not as good as "YOUR" Doctor, but he's still interesting, if maybe a bit over the top. The stories haven't gotten that much worse.* You can watch the show, but it doesn't seem as good.
5. 2+ Regenerations
Oh, so thats the new guy. Wonder how he is going to play it.
*The exception being the 6-7th Doctor transition, where the stories sooo did.
I saw this on the skiffy Doctor Who forum and thought I'd mention it here.
The 5 Stages of Regeneration
1. Pre-Regeneration Anxiety
You've just heard that "YOUR" Doctor is leaving. Your head fills with horrible thoughts and recriminations like, "How could he do this to me?" and "The show will be total rubbish without him", and "I am not going to watch it anymore just on principle."
2. Regeneration Trauma
Oh no, it's happening. No, don't do it. Don't you dare leave me!! NO NO NO NO (buries face in hands crying - eventually you look up) WHOS THAT???
3. Post-Regeneration Blues
1-3 Doctor Who stories in to the new Doctor's reign and you're not happy with the show. It doesn't seem as good. "YOUR" Doctor would have done thing differently/better. The new guy isn't nearly as good, but you still watch.
4. Acceptance
You've gotten used to the New Doctor. He's not as good as "YOUR" Doctor, but he's still interesting, if maybe a bit over the top. The stories haven't gotten that much worse.* You can watch the show, but it doesn't seem as good.
5. 2+ Regenerations
Oh, so thats the new guy. Wonder how he is going to play it.
*The exception being the 6-7th Doctor transition, where the stories sooo did.
Thinkingstuff
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ccrobinson said:
You have a good point. I laughed quite a bit reading these. As long as they keep the same writers Dr. Who Should still be good. Unless the get better writers so that it can be better.
Thinkingstuff
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I've seen a couple of the 2nd season with Tennant. The writing is still good, but I'm still not used to Tennant. However, is Torchwood now the key phrase of season two like Bad Wolf was of season one?
ccrobinson
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Yes.
I really liked Christmas Invasion.
"I need you to shut up!"
"He's not that much different."
:laugh:
What do you think of Harriet Jones destroying the Sycorax ship? After all this time, I'm still undecided about whether she did the right thing or not. Also, the Doctor's taking some credit in Harriet's downfall, but I think a part of it was her plea on national TV for the Doctor to come and save them. If people didn't know about the Doctor, and most people wouldn't have, then you'd start to have reservations about her. I'm not so sure that that didn't start the ball rolling on the end of her time in power.
BTW, remember when Big Ben was destroyed in Aliens of London? RTD (Russell T Davies, show runner), was going to have a similar shot of the Sycorax ship smashing through a newly repaired Big Ben, but decided not to.
In all, I think Christmas Invasion was an excellent beginning to Tennant's time as the Doctor.
In regards to New Earth, I'm sort of "ehh" about it. The most interesting part is speculating on what the Face of Boe's final message to the Doctor will be. You won't find out what it is until Season 3, and unless you've already gone on various sites to find out, I highly recommend waiting for it.
I really liked Christmas Invasion.
"I need you to shut up!"
"He's not that much different."
:laugh:
What do you think of Harriet Jones destroying the Sycorax ship? After all this time, I'm still undecided about whether she did the right thing or not. Also, the Doctor's taking some credit in Harriet's downfall, but I think a part of it was her plea on national TV for the Doctor to come and save them. If people didn't know about the Doctor, and most people wouldn't have, then you'd start to have reservations about her. I'm not so sure that that didn't start the ball rolling on the end of her time in power.
BTW, remember when Big Ben was destroyed in Aliens of London? RTD (Russell T Davies, show runner), was going to have a similar shot of the Sycorax ship smashing through a newly repaired Big Ben, but decided not to.
In all, I think Christmas Invasion was an excellent beginning to Tennant's time as the Doctor.
In regards to New Earth, I'm sort of "ehh" about it. The most interesting part is speculating on what the Face of Boe's final message to the Doctor will be. You won't find out what it is until Season 3, and unless you've already gone on various sites to find out, I highly recommend waiting for it.
Thinkingstuff
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Harriet Jones disappointed me with that shot at the Alien spaceship. Doesn't that mean that England's second Golden age will cease to be?ccrobinson said:
I agree with you about New Earth yet it did show what a good actress Billie Piper is. I'm still on the fence about tennant. Eccleson was a good actor though I like Tennant's scottish accent. However, I'm a Yank so I'm not sure I'm a good critic for things like that. I spent half my time in Scotland saying "huh?"
ccrobinson
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The Doctor has often said that the future can be rewritten. This is the perfect example of the future being rewritten as Britain's Golden Age under Harriet Jones, whatever that would have meant, won't happen.
You're going to be so surprised.
David Tennant is Scottish. That's his natural speaking voice in "Tooth and Claw".
Thinkingstuff
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ccrobinson said:
Wow, No wonder he has a good Scottish accent. Yep, Wales and scotland had me going around wondering what language everyone was speaking. Imagine my suprise when I found out it was english. BTW the warewolf episode was good though I'm not sure I like how they portraid Queen Victoria. At was that a slight I heard about Margeret Thatcher?
Thinkingstuff
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Matt Black said:
I found that one (episode) irritated me. Whats the deal with Rose being left in an alterante universe! I just found out they also have a spin off series called torchwood is that good?
Thinkingstuff
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Despite my disappointments over season two. I rather enjoyed it and still, I'm partial to Eccelson. I really liked what they did with Mickey since I thought he got the short end of the Stick.
ccrobinson
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I think the alternate universe was a good device that let RTD do a number of things.
He brought back the Cybermen, which was one of the things he wanted to do, stated by him in a Doctor Who Confidential. Using the alternate universe let him bring them back without completely destroying the continuity of the original series. In the original series, the 7th Doctor, in "Silver Nemesis", lured the Cybermen into a trap and destroyed them.
It also let Noel Clarke and Billie Piper leave the show without killing them off. RTD talked about that in the Doctor Who Confidential for Doomsday, where he noted that other series' would have killed Rose, but Doctor Who isn't that kind of show.
I don't follow Torchwood, so I can't really say, though I believe there have been 2 seasons of Torchwood to date. Torchwood isn't the only spinoff from Doctor Who, as Elisabeth Sladen's reprise of Sarah Jane Smith in School Reunion sparked another spinoff.
I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to. If you're referring to the conversation the Doctor and Rose had as they returned to the TARDIS, I think that was more about having fun at the royal's expense, not at Thatcher.