Due to Mohler not being woke up enough to suit them?
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New President of the SBC
- Thread starter Jerome
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No!
Do you understand that Mohler ran for SBC President, and came in a distant third?
Do you know what a runoff election is?
What is the main reason that the more conservative candidates lost then?
Stone had the correct view on both.
George Antonios
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Not our New Testament calling. It's not an "issue". Don't take that to mean that we don't support justice when we can, or that we don't care, but you never heard Paul make an "issue" of that. Those are the rudiments of this world.
The world and the media don't set my agenda as a minister, the New Testament scriptures do.
If the teachings of Jesus are important to you, then it is our calling. We cannot claim to love God without loving our neighbor (and our enemies), and we cannot love our neighbor unless we are an advocate for justice.
I don't think Paul had to make much of an issue of it since Jesus had already made it clear. Paul was a disciple of Jesus, therefore he had those same concerns. However, Paul DID apply the teaching of Jesus to elevate the roles of women and slaves, leaving instructions for those relationships that undermined patriarchy and the whole system of slavery.
We are called to be IN the world, working with the Spirit to expand the influence of the Kingdom of God.
Nor does it set my agenda.
I have a hard time believing that since you don't seem to be concerned about the teachings of Jesus or the New Testament writers (for instance - Matthew 25:31-46; Luke 10:25-37; 1 John 3:16-18; James 2:14-17, 4:17-5:9).
don’t buy into people who believe they can read minds and tell you exactly why everyone else voted the way they did
Further the worlds definition of justice is not the Bible’s. Also the need for justice as is defined by the social justice wackos is fabricated for the purpose of gaining power. Nothing more. It’s all a lie
I don't. Especially the "mind" I directed that post to. He is like Nancy Pelosi. They are both my compass. I head the opposite way either of them are traveling.
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George Antonios
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Even if we were to grant that the Lord Jesus Christ was preaching a social gospel anything like what is peddled today in the US (a preposterous assumption), he was preaching the gospel of the kingdom, not the gospel of the grace of God which he charged Paul to preach during the church age. Yet again, the failure to be rightly dividing the word of truth, the failure to divide the dispensations, results in catastrophe. As Peter Ruckman used to say "all kingdom builders are bloody killers".
Yeah, like:
Eph 6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
Eph 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Tit 2:9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Tit 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
And
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
1Co 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Yeah, Paul was a regular anti-patriarchal, anti-hierarchical, feminist. I mean just look at those revolutionary social justices verses!
I don't know how anyone can make such a brazenly false claim without being, were it even unwittingly, an agent of the enemy in Christian ranks.
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I believe Hitler also claimed to be doing the same thing. He was in good standing with the Catholic church. Not making a comparison, just saying that everyone has blinders on when viewing themselves.
You are the one who professed that you are letting Nancy Polosi lead you by negative example. You should be looking to Jesus as your compass instead of foolishly reacting against political leaders you don't like. That's a subChristian political religion.
I walk with Jesus and bear fruit in my life that demonstrates it. It is not because I am anything special or wonderful, but because Jesus is working in me to transform my character and serve others. I sincerely invite you to do the same.
What are his views?
It was under the Old Covenant with Israel, but we were not commissioned under that under the new!
Do you see then no gender specific roles? Women permitted to pastor? And social justice means exactly what? Whiteds have to repay fellow Black Americans, have to agree to accept the owner mentality many wish to thrust upon us as being?
Which Jesus? One of the Bible, or the One that media and liberals want us to have?
Part of Justice would be speaking for the unborn, and yet those into chastising us for not being woke enough are mute on that issue!
CRT has no place in SBC. Sexual abuse is to be dealt with in a common sense manner that does not trample the autonomy of the local church.
How are his views different then those expressed by the new Sbc president?