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Nine Tenets of Fundamentalism

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1689Dave

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HankD said:
VII is a hangnail that probably needs to be clipped to

VII. We believe in “that blessed hope,” the personal, bodily and imminent return of our Lord and
Saviour Jesus Christ.
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Actually, I think they are right about the immanent return.
 
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HankD said:
VII is a hangnail that probably needs to be clipped to

VII. We believe in “that blessed hope,” the personal, bodily and imminent return of our Lord and
Saviour Jesus Christ.
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As a pre-mil dispensationalist, I could sign that, along with the other eight. And IMO, "imminent" in this context implies "at any moment" (in 5 minutes or 500 years) rather than "very soon."
 
1689Dave

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If Jesus' return is not immanent, wouldn't we know the time of his return based on yet to be fulfilled prophecies and their duration? Something only the Father knows?
 
John of Japan

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37818 said:
There are fundamentalist baptists which are, of course, premillennial, but do not hold that the coming of Christ is now imminent. Of course it will be imminent upon the event of His coming. Those who hold the now imminent return of Christ would not consider those who do not hold that view as fundamentalist. I am my self post-trib.
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This is a pretty general statement. I think there are fundamental Baptists who would recognize a post-trip person as fundamentalist. I would myself would say they are fundamentalist--fundamentalist but mistaken. ;)
 
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May I make just one rabbit trail comment? Paragraph VII tweaks me just a bit. In the area of Central Florida that I live in, there is no shortage of Baptist churches. More than a few use the language of the World Conference on Christian Fundamentals in their doctrinal statement. While I am an amillennialist, I would never use my eschatological position to cause division in the local body. However, a few of the churches we visited require agreement and adherence to their doctrinal statement which includes paragraph VII or some variation of it. If the doctrinal statement said, "This is what we teach and you agree not to teach contrary" I would view that as sufficient. Eventually, we found a church that does just that. They are premillennial but accept my view as orthodox, although I cannot teach contrary to what the church believes.
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As long as one is not a preterist though, does any acceptable view on Eschatology rise uyp to the level of denying one the right to teach in a church if so qualifed and gifted/called to be doing such? I did not agree with Calvin on infant baptism, but would not tell him cannot preach from the pulpit!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
As long as one is not a preterist though, does any acceptable view on Eschatology rise uyp to the level of denying one the right to teach in a church if so qualifed and gifted/called to be doing such? I did not agree with Calvin on infant baptism, but would not tell him cannot preach from the pulpit!
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I would ask him to preach from Romans 6:1-5

Romans 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
 
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HankD said:
I would ask him to preach from Romans 6:1-5

Romans 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
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Him and someone like a Spurgeon would "knock that out of the park"
 
37818

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John of Japan said:
This is a pretty general statement. I think there are fundamental Baptists who would recognize a post-trip person as fundamentalist. I would myself would say they are fundamentalist--fundamentalist but mistaken. ;)
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The ascended to Heaven, Jesus, did so once (Hebrews 9:12) even as He suffered once (Hebrews 10:10), He will appear a 2nd time (Hebrews 9:28). Besides, the rapture will only take place until after the dead in Christ are raised (1 Thessalonians 4:15) in the last day (John 6:40).
 
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