1689Dave
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Satan is now bound from "deceiving the nations" because of the gospel preached to the nations. If you expand Satan's binding beyond "not deceiving the nations" you add to Revelation.
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Nine Tenets of Fundamentalism
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1689Dave
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“Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.” (Philippians 3:21)
1689Dave
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“Beloved, we are God’s children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.” (1 John 3:2–3)
1689Dave
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So do you, so does everybody, but only the born again can see it. God (Jesus) is omnipresent and permeates all.
1689Dave
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God is omnipresent and permeates all. But only the born again can see the kingdom. This also rules out a physical kingdom even the most vile can see.
How can this be that "We are presently in the kingdom of God" as you say above , yet being flesh and blood physical beings as you have said in other places is impossible Dave?
You have answered this in another place "God (Jesus) is omnipresent and permeates all".
Therefore the kingdom of God can indeed be in the world but not of the world because "God (Jesus) is omnipresent and permeates all.".
1689Dave
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We are in the first resurrection aka the new birth. Our bodies will follow along in the resurrection on the last day.
I think so far (except for ideas of the future status of the kingdom) we are in agreement.
1689Dave
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If you consider Jesus' description of the kingdom, nothing approaching a physical kingdom in this world is possible. And if you press popular end time teachings to their limit, only saints in glorified bodies would populate an earthly millennium for Satan to deceive and rally as Gog and Magog against the rest after the 1000 years end.
That is at the second coming itself, but when Jesus then sets up His kingdom here on earth, those left alive to go into it are normal humans!
The firest resurrection is at the time of the second coming for the saved in Chriist, the second one will be for the lost, as they await the Great White Judgement!
Not true, as those holding to preMil see the surviviors alive at end of the Great tribulation in normal bodies populating it!
1689Dave
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They see all sorts of things scripture knows nothing of.
1689Dave
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QUOTE="Yeshua1, post: 2453744, member: 11334"]The firest resurrection is at the time of the second coming for the saved in Chriist, the second one will be for the lost, as they await the Great White Judgement![/QUOTE]
“And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved, And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.” (Ephesians 2:1–7)
“And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved, And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.” (Ephesians 2:1–7)
1689Dave
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“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36)
“When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.” (John 6:15)
Supreme irony in play on your words!
“And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved, And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.” (Ephesians 2:1–7)[/QUOTE]
John stated that the first resurrected happens when the saints have been glorified in Christ, right?
At that time His kingdom was in heaven, but He will bring it down to earth!
1689Dave
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“From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 4:17)
“And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)
The Kingdom was in Him, and ever saved person gets into it by new birth, but he will extend it over whole earth at His second coming!
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