1689Dave
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“Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” (Matthew 18:18)
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Nine Tenets of Fundamentalism
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The binding of Satan will mean that ONLY Christianity will be followed, ONLY Law of God obeyed, ONLY Jesus is the Lord, when did all that happen?
1689Dave
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If flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom, it means only saints in glorified bodies are there for Satan to deceive after the end of the 1000 years end. How does this square with "perseverance of the saints?
1689Dave
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Not on earth, Jesus says his kingdom is not of this world. Not in the world to come either, it is eternal not 1000 years.
The Millinium kingdom will have all of the end time survivors living in that , so there will be MNAY flesh and blood persons under the rule of Christ on earth!
1689Dave
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Flesh and blood cannot enter it.
They can the Kinfgdom Age, as the persons in it are not glorified as of yet!
1689Dave
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If you are Amillennial it all fits. But it's a big problem for any looking for a physical kingdom.
Well, Jesus stated that he would be ruling over Israel in His kingdom!
1689Dave
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The Church is Israel and the kingdom is here now and in heaven, and in the new heavens and earth forever.
I agree. Jesus saying that His kingdom is not of this world does not preclude the kingdom being here on planet earth.
The Church is not of this world, yet it is here on earth until the "fulness" or the "times" of the "Gentiles be fulfilled" and Jesus Christ comes to the earth and we need no longer have "occupy til I come" .
1689Dave
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It still remains, Jesus taught the kingdom is spiritual only. And flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom. If there ever will be a Kingdom on earth, it would be glorified resurrected and raptured saints only. And it would be from among these Satan would rally support to attack the rest when the "1000 years" end.
flesh and blood - unregenerate mankind.
The kingdom has always had an sector of pretenders who talk the talk but are wicked human beings, deceivers, liars, false accusers, slanderers, murderers, perverts of every kind, etc, etc... The wheat and the tares... The tares will be taken care of when He returns.
37818
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By reason it was not reveal until it was given (Revelation 1:1 . . . ; 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 . . .). Satan has not yet be bound (1 Peter 5:8).
Jesus will one day seat and rule over israel proper, and His Apostles will each judge the 12 tribes themselves!
atpollard
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This I can agree with ... but what then are the "clear teachings of Jesus"?
1689Dave
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Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:
“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)
“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)
“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)
“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)
“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)
“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)
“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.”Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)
1689Dave
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We are Israel. Jesus restores Israel (us) in the resurrection on the last day, into the New Heavens and earth.
1689Dave
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Satan is bound from deceiving the (elect) in the nations. But God uses him to judge the wicked every day. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36)
If we go beyond bound so Satan cannot deceive the nations" we add to Revelation.
“And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more [saints preaching the gospel], till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” (Revelation 20:3)
1689Dave
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The kingdom is spiritual, flesh and blood cannot enter it. In fact, one cannot see it unless born again. This proves it is not physical.
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