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No adulterers in Heaven !

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True Puritan

Psalm 5:5, 7:11 God hates sin and a sinner
You know what one of the major problems with preaching a works based salvation is? -> It can always be turned around on you. It can turned around on anyone! You know why? ;)
We don't trust our good works that take many to Hell, but only in Jesus as Messiah and Savior. Without obedience and following God's Will, your Faith is nothing, but dead. Don't be ignored at Matthew 7:21.
How can you be saved, if you live double lives, serving God and proud sin. For example, " I am a Christian, I trust in Jesus, and I am gay." Have Spirit.
 

annsni

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If this innocent party woman dares to remarry, while her guilty party husband lives, she will become same adulteress likewise her guilty husband. Mark 10:11-12. Luke 16:18. They both will be damned to Hell, even they might profess Jesus as God. Hebrews 13:4. To avoid going to Hell, she must stay single and obey God. God demands us to be holy and not happy. Jesus demands Narrow Way that is enduring and persevere !

So her real salvation after the fact is false and she can't be saved?

Interestingly enough, I do recall Jesus saying "except...." when He speaks of divorce and adultery. Why do you skip that part?
 

True Puritan

Psalm 5:5, 7:11 God hates sin and a sinner
So her real salvation after the fact is false and she can't be saved?

Interestingly enough, I do recall Jesus saying "except...." when He speaks of divorce and adultery. Why do you skip that part?
Divorce, and then no remarriage is not the adultery. If the innocent party spouse remains lonely obeying and fearing God, he or she is not accountable for his or her guilty party spouse's adulterous sin.
 

Benjamin

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We don't trust our good works that take many to Hell, but only in Jesus as Messiah and Savior.

Only way to salvation is by grace through faith alone.

Without obedience and following God's Will, your Faith is nothing, but dead.

Are you always obedient? Not proud of it but will admit I'm not. How about you?


Don't be ignored at Matthew 7:21.

Umm, those saying Lord, Lord were trusting in their good works (being obedient), Umm, I wouldn't be making any such claim... It is your argument that draws lines on which sins or what type of obedience is good enough! Not mine.


How can you be saved, if you live double lives, serving God and proud sin.

I'm not proud of sin, just honest about it. Wouldn't want to call God a liar!

For example, " I am a Christian, I trust in Jesus, and I am gay." Have Spirit.

That's the line you draw, along with a definition of adultery. But I'd bet your thoughts aren't always perfect when you see a beautiful woman walk by, so... in your heart you are an adulterer, so how bout I draw that line and make the claim that you are not obedient and are hell bound???
 

True Puritan

Psalm 5:5, 7:11 God hates sin and a sinner
Only way to salvation is by grace through faith alone.



Are you always obedient? Not proud of it but will admit I'm not. How about you?




Umm, those saying Lord, Lord were trusting in their good works (being obedient), Umm, I wouldn't be making any such claim... It is your argument that draws lines on which sins or what type of obedience is good enough! Not mine.




I'm not proud of sin, just honest about it. Wouldn't want to call God a liar!



That's the line you draw, along with a definition of adultery. But I'd bet your thoughts aren't always perfect when you see a beautiful woman walk by, so... in your heart you are an adulterer, so how bout I draw that line and make the claim that you are not obedient and are hell bound???
Grace is not a license to sin. Unless, a remarried person repents from adulterous remarriage by departing from the unlawful spouse, he or she can't get to Heaven. The same goes with gays, baby killers, drinkers, and other unrepentant sinners. You can't change God's eternal principles.
 

Benjamin

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Grace is not a license to sin. Unless, a remarried person repents from adulterous remarriage by departing from the unlawful spouse, he or she can't get to Heaven. The same goes with gays, baby killers, drinkers, and other unrepentant sinners. You can't change God's eternal principles.

Unless you can look at a beautiful woman without lust 100% of the time you are an adulterer!

Seems to me the object of your faith is "obedience" rather than grace. Guess I'll have to refer you back to Mat 7:21...
 

True Puritan

Psalm 5:5, 7:11 God hates sin and a sinner
Unless you can look at a beautiful woman without lust 100% of the time you are an adulterer!

Seems to me the object of your faith is "obedience" rather than grace. Guess I'll have to refer you back to Mat 7:21...
I don't need women, whether they are beautiful or ugly. My goal is to warn them that adultery and fornication will get them to Hell, unless they repent from these sins. Luke 13:3.
 

Benjamin

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I don't need women, whether they are beautiful or ugly. My goal is to warn them that adultery and fornication will get them to Hell, unless they repent from these sins. Luke 13:3.
Yet, you are a sinner! ...And I hear you telling others of a worked based salvation. Hmm...
 

True Puritan

Psalm 5:5, 7:11 God hates sin and a sinner
Yet, you are a sinner! ...And I hear you telling others of a worked based salvation. Hmm...
We all people here on Earth are sinners in God's jurisdiction. Christ works our Salvation, only if we trust in Him as our Savior and follow His Ways, but not after imaginations of our foolish hearts.
 

Benjamin

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We all people here on Earth are sinners in God's jurisdiction. Christ works our Salvation, only if we trust in Him as our Savior and follow His Ways, but not after imaginations of our foolish hearts.
Now you sound double minded. You set a condition, do you always follow His ways or not??? Rom 3:10.

Again, is the object of your faith grace or obedience???
 

True Puritan

Psalm 5:5, 7:11 God hates sin and a sinner
Now you sound double minded. You set a condition, do you always follow His ways or not??? Rom 3:10.
I don't drink. I don't get remarry. I am not a politically correct mainstreamer who wills to please men rather than God.
 

Benjamin

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I don't drink. I don't get remarry. I am not a politically correct mainstreamer who wills to please men rather than God.
Yet, you're a sinner! You are not always obedient are you? I think you're an adulterer, therefore not righteous and by the line I wish to draw for the sake of argument, hell bound. What makes you more qualified for heaven than a drinker or someone that's remarried???
 

BrotherJoseph

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You have edited your initial post. You had originally said :"Primitive Calvinist Baptist." And of course, there isn't any such thing.

If he is Westoboro he does not represent Primitive Baptist no more than the KKK represents Christians. I am an absoluter Predestinarian Primitive and can tell you that. They preach hate at Westboro.
 
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