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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Brightfame52

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You answer your own question BF and yet failed to understand it.

What did John say to them
Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?
Mat 3:8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.

2Co 7:10 Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.

Any man, no matter how bad, can turn to God in faith and be saved. That is why we preach the gospel to all men, as no man is beyond the love of God.

“There is no saint without a past, no sinner without a future.” Augustine

Remember that many of the Pharisees and Sadducees did turn to Christ in faith.
Don't forget Matt 7:17-18

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit

You put a lot of confidence in the flesh
 

Silverhair

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Don't forget Matt 7:17-18

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit

You put a lot of confidence in the flesh

Just as God has, He has provided the means for man to know Him and will hold man responsible for the choices they make. That is why we are told man has no excuse. If it were impossible for man to turn and trust in God then we would have an excuse.

God “...decided not which choice the man should make but that he should be free to make it.” A. W. Tozer
 

Brightfame52

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Just as God has, He has provided the means for man to know Him and will hold man responsible for the choices they make. That is why we are told man has no excuse. If it were impossible for man to turn and trust in God then we would have an excuse.

God “...decided not which choice the man should make but that he should be free to make it.” A. W. Tozer
No God doesnt have a lot of confidence in the flesh, thats a delusion.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
@Silverhair

He has provided the means for man to know Him and will hold man responsible for the choices they make.

Yep sure did, in Adam, and then threaten Adam/man with death if he made a the choice to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, what was threat if he ate ? You know your bible, what did God say would happen in the day man eats ?
 

Silverhair

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No God doesnt have a lot of confidence in the flesh, thats a delusion.

Rom 1:16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

Rom 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Word of God disagrees with you BF.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Rom 1:16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

Rom 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Word of God disagrees with you BF.
To say God has confidence in mans flesh is not only a delusion but utter Blasphemy ! Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 7:18

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
 

Silverhair

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To say God has confidence in mans flesh is not only a delusion but utter Blasphemy ! Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 7:18

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

And you still deny the truths of the bible BF. We are all in the flesh/sinful but God has provided the means for even us sinful men to know Him.

Your continued cherry picking verses is what causes you to have such a twisted view of scripture.
 

Brightfame52

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And you still deny the truths of the bible BF. We are all in the flesh/sinful but God has provided the means for even us sinful men to know Him.

Your continued cherry picking verses is what causes you to have such a twisted view of scripture.
You have confidence in the flesh, but God says Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Its like saying Matt 7:18

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

ye defy scripture !
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You have confidence in the flesh, but God says Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Its like saying Matt 7:18

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

ye defy scripture !

Then you do not understand the word of God. God holds man responsible for making choices.
 
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