No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair



Right, so if God saved you because you performed an action, that's salvation by your works. Thats condemned by scripture.

BF how can you be so blind.

Joh_6:29 "This is the work of God, that you believe

So if God says we should believe is that wrong in your view?

Rom 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Are we not justified by faith?

Rom 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,

Paul disagree with your errant view so who should I believe, you or Paul.

Gal 2:16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

Paul even expanded on his comment re faith and works. It seems you are trusting in what some man told you rather than what the word of God says.

Faith in Christ Jesus is the reason one is saved. Attempting salvation through works is condemned in scripture.

Your religion has it backwards BF.

 

[JonC]

@JonC



In fact, our turning is the result of already having been turned by God Jer 31:18

I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my God.

Yep.....my point is that we turn of our will (albeit a changed will). God changes our heart.

 

[Brightfame52]

BF how can you be so blind.

Joh_6:29 "This is the work of God, that you believe

So if God says we should believe is that wrong in your view?

Rom 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Are we not justified by faith?

Rom 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,

Paul disagree with your errant view so who should I believe, you or Paul.

Gal 2:16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

Paul even expanded on his comment re faith and works. It seems you are trusting in what some man told you rather than what the word of God says.

Faith in Christ Jesus is the reason one is saved. Attempting salvation through works is condemned in scripture.

Your religion has it backwards BF.

Performance of a action is a work!

 

[Brightfame52]

Yep.....my point is that we turn of our will (albeit a changed will). God changes our heart.

We become active after we are saved or made alive by grace.