Not all Drs are bought & paid for

[JonC]

You know as well as I do that, unfortunately, politics permeates most things in the United States today.

Unfortunately this is true. There are what I would call "sheeple" on both sides of the political spectrum.

There are some who make an educated decision about their health and wind up making different decisions.

But the difference between other vaccines and this vaccine is politics.

The anti-covid-vax movement is political. They are "sheeple" allowing politics to make health decisions for them. If the government supports it, they are against it. Just fill in the blank for "it".

Ironically they consider themselves opposed to the US government (read "anti-American") and patriotic at the same time. That's politics for ya.

 

[KenH]

Some of us ain't sheeple.

There are what I would call "sheeple" on both sides of the political spectrum.

I am glad that by God's grace I am a sheep. John 10:11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep."

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Why not?

You made the assertion. You tell me why.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

But the difference between other vaccines and this vaccine is politics.

No, the difference between this vaccine and other vaccines is that they're not the same.

I'm sorry if that wasn't painfully obvious.

 

[JonC]

No, the difference between this vaccine and other vaccines is that they're not the same.

I'm sorry if that wasn't painfully obvious.

Sure it is. VAERS does not report deaths connected to any vaccine (per VAERS). But the deaths they did report post-vaccine represent 0.000017 of those vacvinated (per VAERS data).

 

[KenH]

No, the difference between this vaccine and other vaccines is that they're not the same.

Vaers is basically meaningless as far as understanding what you are trying to use it to say.

 

[Reynolds]

Yep. It is political.

If some perceive they are being told they should do something their first reaction is to rebell. We see this with children who reject the faith of thir parents, kids who skip school, etc.

The government (first the Trump Administration and now the Bidrn Administration) are telling people they need to be vaccinated. Therefore a large segment will reject being vaccinated.

It has nothing to do with the actual vaccine and everything to do with politics.

It's half political and half effectiveness of vax.
The vax is a poor vax. It's long term side effects are unknown. I won't surrender freedom to the govt no matter what.

I am glad that by God's grace I am a sheep. John 10:11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep."

And you know how to take a verse totally out of context.
I am a sheep of The Good Shepherd. You are being a sheep of the evil Marxists.

 

[percho]

So is it a political push-back move?

Are the mandates political? If you do not require your employees to get the vaccine you will not get any Gov money. Is that political?

 

[percho]

Sure it is. VAERS does not report deaths connected to any vaccine (per VAERS). But the deaths they did report post-vaccine represent 0.000017 of those vacvinated (per VAERS data).

Jon

If that red line wasn't on that chart and all had not taken place we we have observed what would have been your thoughts about that chart say last year or the year before?

Would you have said the chart was basically accurate of number of deaths following vaccines?

You know in your heart the answer. That red line should scare you to death relative to the attitude of the government toward the data.

 

[percho]

I would bet most of the reporting has been by individuals instead of by institutions with people saying this happened to my loved one could someone check out what happened. I would also bet there has been practically no investigation into these deaths by government personal.

I would bet less than 1 % has been checked out.

They do not care.

 

[JonC]

Jon

If that red line wasn't on that chart and all had not taken place we we have observed what would have been your thoughts about that chart say last year or the year before?

Would you have said the chart was basically accurate of number of deaths following vaccines?

You know in your heart the answer. That red line should scare you to death relative to the attitude of the government toward the data.

No, I would not have. I knew the VAERS did not report causality because of an old debate concerning the measles vaccine and school children.

And the chart is misinformation. VAERS received 9,143 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine without establishing causation. My previous number (0.000017) should be 0.000022 as I used a report from March.

But as of October 25 2021 the correct post-vaccine death rate is 0.000022 (0.0022%).


The chart is misinformation being used by anti-covid-vaxers to try and scare people (or perhaps to comfort themselves in their choices).

In other words, the chart is wrong. I suspect you know this as you probably did what I did and checked out VAERS.

 

[percho]

No, I would not have. I knew the VAERS did not report causality because of an old debate concerning the measles vaccine and school children.

And the chart is misinformation. VAERS received 9,143 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine without establishing causation. My previous number (0.000017) should be 0.000022 as I used a report from March.

But as of October 25 2021 the correct post-vacvine death rate is 0.000022 (0.0022%).


The chart is misinformation being used by anti-covid-vaxers to try and scare people (or perhaps to comfort themselves in their choices).

By all means, move the red line down to the 9000 mark and compare it to the black lines. That is immaterial. There is something wrong about this, "safe," vaccine.

 

[JonC]

By all means, move the red line down to the 9000 mark and compare it to the black lines. That is immaterial. There is something wrong about this, "safe," vaccine.

That still is not correct. The chart is per million.

So the line for people who died in the months following a covid vaccine would be closer to the 27 per million mark. And these include (are mostly) the elderly that had been vaccinated. The vaccine was not established as a cause.

Also, the lines for other years are incorrect. Just for influenza you have to raise 2010 graph (and there were a lot more vaccines).

In other words, the chart is a lie. Just go to the VAERS site and skip the middlemen.

 

[KenH]

You are being a sheep of the evil Marxists.

Nope. Marxists have nothing to do with the vaccine. That would be like the progressives calling the folks you follow, such as Donald Trump, Fascists, which would be incorrect, as well. And, as you know, Trump actually pushed the rapid development of the vaccines. I don't think Trump is a Marxist.

 

[KenH]

Are the mandates political?

I am opposed to the COVID-19 vaccine mandates. There is too much divisive in the United States already. It is time to stop piling on to the stack of divisive issues and start reducing the stack.

 

[Reynolds]

Nope. Marxists have nothing to do with the vaccine. That would be like the progressives calling the folks you follow, such as Donald Trump, Fascists, which would be incorrect, as well. And, as you know, Trump actually pushed the rapid development of the vaccines. I don't think Trump is a Marxist.

The problem is not the vax. The problem is using the vax to gain control.

 

[percho]

VAERS Reveals DEATH BY LOT NUMBER: Specific States Get Certain Vials (bitchute.com)

 

[Wingman68]

VAERS Reveals DEATH BY LOT NUMBER: Specific States Get Certain Vials (bitchute.com)

If you are in a red state, even more important to resist. Thanks for posting.

 

[JonC]

If you are in a red state, even more important to resist. Thanks for posting.

Nah. In the red states the majority of adults are vaccinated.

 

[KenH]

The problem is using the vax to gain control.

God always accomplishes His purposes for His glory, not ours. He gives control to whomever He purposes.