You are becoming an out of context expert.
Look at Israel. Israel's sin brought Gods judgment.
So, you advocate we are all puppets on God's strings?
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Look at Israel. Israel's sin brought Gods judgment.
So, you advocate we are all puppets on God's strings?
About what I have come to expect. The Borg and the vax pushers have a tremendous amount in common.
KenH
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God is absolutely sovereign over all of His creation, right down to the very millimeter where a lightening bolt may hit, right down to whether a dog jumps to the right or to the left, right down to whether a field goal attempt goes to the inside or the outside of a goalpost.
Proverbs 16:9 A man’s heart plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps.
KenH
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Romans 9:17-24 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
You seem to define Sovereign in a less than orthodox way.
So, then, by your logic life is pointless. Puppets in the hands of an angry God.
KenH
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Beings created by an almighty, glorious God. I am quite aware that most people chafe at the idea that God is sovereign and does with us as He wills, that He is the Potter and we are merely the clay, as the Bible teaches.
He is Sovereign. You just have a poor understanding of what that means.
See the latest data in your region - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
A libby fave, Johns Hopkins. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, the # is 58.6%. How many of those that took it under duress, wish they hadn’t, & a big **** to the NO that I will be assimilated.
A libby fave, Johns Hopkins. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, the # is 58.6%. How many of those that took it under duress, wish they hadn’t, & a big **** to the NO that I will be assimilated.
KenH
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58.6% nationally is excellent! Better than the percentage that gets the flu shot.
Better than here in Arkansas, unfortunately. 
You are already assimilated.
I know it is a miracle but we actually agree on something.
Now what is your understanding of why and for how long things take place as they have and will?
I believe it is, relative to the foundation of the world, because of appointed time, relative to (from Eph 1:10) dispensation of the fulness of times.
Good and Evil.
Who definitely will be absent when the, dispensation of the fulness of times takes place, that was, from the beginning 1 John 3:8 and still is presently, from the foundation of the world (kosmos) or as W&H would put it, from of a casting down of a configuration?
See my thread; Why was man in BT&BS forum.
Everything has and is taking place as God planned. IMHO
KenH
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Are you talking about the supralapsarianism vs. infralapsarianism controversy? If so, I don't know enough about it to even begin to discuss it with any intelligence.
I would have to google both of those. I was only talking about my thoughts of why, what is, is.
I believe what takes place from Genesis 1:3 -31 is a casting down of a configuration (the foundation of the world) and was so done, because the devil, Satan, was already a sinner and had done sinful works. I believe God established an allotted and or appointed time, for the devil and his demons unto their destruction of them and their works. Which would come about through man created in the image of God and the Son of God coming through woman taken from man in sinful flesh yet without sin, dying and being raised out of the dead.
I believe all is about God and the Adversary. Man of flesh is the means.
KenH
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Interesting. The rabbit trail is way more interesting than what this thread was originally about.
Ask your Doctor. Here is what this one says.
7 1/2 mins
Scott Youngblood - Efficacy of Vaccines (a presentation) | San Diego County Board of Supervisors Mtg (bitchute.com)
I have asked my doctors. They are both of the opinion that most people who reject covid vaccinations are fooled by misinformation on the internet, the exception being those who do not take any vaccinations (which they contribute to general ignorance).
These were 2 of my doctors. I have friends who are doctors as well (one obgyn, one family doc, and one surgeon). While not my doctors they share this opinion.
Anti-covid-vaxers are, for a large part, willfully ignorant. They look to doctors and "experts" not because they have a history of trusting these people but because these people say what they want to hear.
Many of the anti-covid-vaxers on this board probably never even heard of the "experts" they are now relying upon until they searched for people supporting their beliefs. This demonstrates the utter folly of their position.
No problem. "Thread drift" is normal.
“one cannot say statistically the vaccine saves live”
“you’d be better off without the vaccine”
My own doctor and nurse from the VA said since I’ve had covid I’m fine” in reference to not getting the vaccine.
That is as derogatory a comment as could possibly be posted on here.