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Aaron

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A question to the anti public breast feeding posters....have you ever spoken to the husbands of these ladies that you are protesting? Do they bear any responsibility?
The public breastfeeding push is nothing more than another feminist cavil. And feminism could not have taken hold if not for male feminists. The husbands are actually more accountable.
 

Aaron

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Once again, for those who feel that a woman should not breastfeed in public because men might stumble, I ask this question: Should I cut my hair because it DOES cause a man that I know to stumble? It is a fact. I know for a fact that long hair causes him to stumble. I have long hair. Shall I cut it so that I will no longer make him stumble?
So, still of the opinion that nothing God made is ornamental?
 

Don

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So, Aaron - would you prefer your women veiled from head to toe, and walking 3-6 paces behind you?
 

Amy.G

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This is unbelievable. We aren't talking about wanton women trying to seduce lusty men in our congregations. :rolleyes:

We're talking about discretely feeding babies what God intended them to have and so created the woman's body accordingly. Get over it.

It has nothing to do with the feminist movement.

I breast fed my son and my own husband was never turned on by it. So for you guys who have issues of lust...well that's just sick.
 

annsni

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Have you tried wearing a hat?

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Edited to add: Seriously, though, there are some things that you can't do anything about. Hair, feet, etc. The things we can do something about (suits, breast-feeding, drinking, watching TV (that one's for some of my more legalistic friends)), we should consider. For example, I turn off the TV when those legalistic friends are over.

What if the legalistic friends told you that you needed to get rid of the TV.

Did you really say we should do away with suits? Can you call our senior pastor? He's still a suit guy and we're thinking that suits are for lawyers and salesmen. LOL
 

annsni

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The public breastfeeding push is nothing more than another feminist cavil. And feminism could not have taken hold if not for male feminists. The husbands are actually more accountable.

Public breastfeeding occurred significantly before feminism was even a consideration.
 

annsni

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So, still of the opinion that nothing God made is ornamental?

Hair's purpose is to keep the head warm. That is the purpose. We go ahead and make it ornamental but that is not it's purpose. Same with earlobes. And necks - they all have a purpose but we make it ornamental.
 

Don

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What if the legalistic friends told you that you needed to get rid of the TV.
I have. I gently remind them that their problem with the TV is what's on it; that's why I turn it off while they're here. Then I ask them if they see any difference in me between when they didn't know I watch TV, and now that they do. If they don't see any difference, I just smile smugly and change the topic. If they say they do, I ask them for further clarification.

Did you really say we should do away with suits? Can you call our senior pastor? He's still a suit guy and we're thinking that suits are for lawyers and salesmen. LOL
Nope; I said the things we can do something about, we should consider. Doesn't mean stop doing them; means consider doing something about them.

What would I suggest about the lady who gets turned on by men wearing suits? Counseling. LOL
 

annsni

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I have. I gently remind them that their problem with the TV is what's on it; that's why I turn it off while they're here. Then I ask them if they see any difference in me between when they didn't know I watch TV, and now that they do. If they don't see any difference, I just smile smugly and change the topic. If they say they do, I ask them for further clarification.


Nope; I said the things we can do something about, we should consider. Doesn't mean stop doing them; means consider doing something about them.

What would I suggest about the lady who gets turned on by men wearing suits? Counseling. LOL

So then why not directly deal with the nursing issue? As I've said, I covered and covered well. If someone had an issue with it, I'd be happy to speak to them about it and I HAVE chosen to not nurse in the presence of some who just could not handle it including my FIL. But I would not allow myself to be banished from church just because I need to feed my child. Now, when the child got older and much more noisy, I did go to the nursing room which was specially set up with a closed-circuit TV, changing table and nice rockers but I didn't like to go in there much during the sermon because it was too easy to start chatting instead of listening to the message. So I'd try to go in there before I dropped the baby off in the nursery if they needed to be fed or else I'd nurse immediately after down there. But when they were babies, I didn't use the nursery because they were never a bother or noisy so they would just be with me. I had one child that would only sleep while she was nursing so I spent months nursing a child in church just to keep her quiet. LOL Again, no one saw anything. :D
 

Don

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So then why not directly deal with the nursing issue?....
What do you mean? I remind you that I've written several times that I personally don't have a problem with it. The only thing I've tried to point out is, what do you do when someone does point out to you that they have a problem with it?

You've answered by saying that you'd discuss it with that person; and that you wouldn't do it in their presence. Cool beans!:thumbs:

Aaron is the only one here who seems to be espousing that you should stay at home. I think he also wants you to be veiled head to toe, walk 3-6 paces behind your husband, never wear shoes, and don't come out of the kitchen unless called.... ;)
 

annsni

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What do you mean? I remind you that I've written several times that I personally don't have a problem with it. The only thing I've tried to point out is, what do you do when someone does point out to you that they have a problem with it?

You've answered by saying that you'd discuss it with that person; and that you wouldn't do it in their presence. Cool beans!:thumbs:

Cool! Sorry I misunderstood you.

Aaron is the only one here who seems to be espousing that you should stay at home. I think he also wants you to be veiled head to toe, walk 3-6 paces behind your husband, never wear shoes, and don't come out of the kitchen unless called.... ;)

I guess so. Sad.
 

DHK

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The public breastfeeding push is nothing more than another feminist cavil. And feminism could not have taken hold if not for male feminists. The husbands are actually more accountable.
I am probably older than you Aaron. Years ago when we went on deputation and visited perhaps hundreds of churches, my son was an infant. My wife nursed him for 18 months and never had a complaint from anyone. She never missed church either. That was before the present feminism movement that you are referring to.
 

Amy.G

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Women can stay at home with their newborns.
Luke 2:27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him according to the custom of the law,


I guess you would have advised Mary to stay at home?
 

Aaron

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So, Aaron - would you prefer your women veiled from head to toe, and walking 3-6 paces behind you?
No. I would prefer women wore tight and revealing clothing—the good-looking ones, anyway. I'd prefer the fat and old ones more covered, naturally. I mean, you asked about personal preference.
 

Aaron

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Hair's purpose is to keep the head warm. That is the purpose.
So a woman's glory is a warm head? It was given to Eve when she needed no covering. This is elementary stuff, Ann, and you presume to instruct me in sociology?

Anyway. You can have it your way. There is no beauty in you ladies. [offensive language edited]
 
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Luke2427

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We are living in an ever changing society and church. In fact both are changing at a very rapid pace. What would have been unheard of or improper several years ago is now considered standard today.
So I would like to hear some thoughts and why or why not on this issue. Is it proper for a mother to nurse her baby in open congregation? By the way the answer is yes this did happen at church. Some of you Pastors join in instead of waiting to see how the flow is going and explain your thoughts and how you would handle this.

There is no way on earth that I would allow such a thing.

We have a nursery for that sort of thing.

My wife mothers five children. She breast fed all five without the slightest urge to do it in the sanctuary.
 

Jerome

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I Samuel 1:21-22

Oh no Hannah didn't! Absenting herself from public worship while nursing?!

If only she had the advice of the Baptist Board chapter of the La Leche League! Our church ladies would set her straight!

Matthew Henry:
Hannah had been accustomed to go, but now desired to be excused, 1. Because she would not be so long absent from her nursery. Can a woman forget her sucking child? We may suppose she kept constantly at home, for, if she had gone any where, she would have gone to Shiloh. Note, God will have mercy and not sacrifice. Those that are detained from public ordinances by the nursing and tending of little children may take comfort from this instance, and believe that, if they do that with an eye to God, he will graciously accept them therein, and though they tarry at home they shall divide the spoil.
 

freeatlast

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I know men who struggle with different things. Should I stop these things so as to not cause them to lust? One man I know has a hard time with lust regarding women with long hair. Up or down, covered or uncovered - he absolutely is turned on by long hair. It's a daily struggle for him. Shall I cut my hair short?

What about the man I know who is totally into feet? It doesn't matter if there are shoes on a woman or not - he still loves feet and has to work hard daily to not lust after feet. Shall I cut off my feet?

How about the woman I know who LOVES a man in a suit and she is turned on by men in suits. It's really an issue for her. Shall we skip suits? Oh - yes we should. ;)

See, there's a line. I seek to please God and do what else I can but there are some things that I just am not responsible for. Yes, I have breastfed my children everywhere I have been. Legally, a woman is allowed to breastfeed wherever she is. I was always discreet and would not have offended anyone because there was nothing to offend them with other than a baby under a lightweight blanket or my shirt. If they wish to lust after that, that's honestly not my problem. Maybe if they are exposed to it more, it will become just another thing in his life and no longer something that causes him to lust. ;)

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Aaron

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So a woman's glory is a warm head? It was given to Eve when she needed no covering. This is elementary stuff, Ann, and you presume to instruct me in sociology?

Anyway. You can have it your way. There is no beauty in you ladies. [offensive language edited]
The edit is misleading. I used no profanity. I described a woman's breast using technical terminology for plumbing fixtures. (And DHK wants to harp to me on the subject of context?)

Anyway, Ann said everything God made was non-ornamental. She insists that everything on a human body is coldly utilitarian. That would mean that there is no physical beauty, and therefore a woman's breasts is just a _________________ (insert technical term for a plumbing fixture.)

A man would do as well to marvel at his kitchen faucets.
 
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